(July 18, 2016 at 8:48 am)Drich Wrote: So... Are you looking for permission to date your mom?

(July 18, 2016 at 8:48 am)Drich Wrote: So... Are you looking for permission to date your mom?

Most gaping assholes take a break once in a while, Drich. Try it sometime.

It's a specific interpretation of genesis that leads people to imagine that incest was required.  That interpretation is difficult to maintain if one continues to read genesis..for example, when cain complians that his mark will make "other people" kill him...we're not told who those other people might be..just as it doesn't tell us who cain married, but their casual injection into the narrative ought to tell us that with adam and eve, the authors were not necessarily thinking like we might today (or, rather, that they were thinking quite a bit like our colonial ancestors..when they met subhuman savage races of non-men).  It was a special creation of a special people.  A divine master race.  There were other people about, obviously.

Back to reality...cain simply stands in for those elements of their own society that adopted the others way of life, and went out into the world to intermingle with them. In this way they can demonize other ways of life -while claiming credit for their achievements....just as the narrative would later do with the nation of Egypt.

(July 18, 2016 at 4:12 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It's a specific interpretation of genesis that leads people to imagine that incest was required.  That interpretation is difficult to maintain if one continues to read genesis..for example, when cain complians that his mark will make "other people" kill him...we're not told who those other people might be..just as it doesn't tell us who cain married, but their casual injection into the narrative ought to tell us that with adam and eve, the authors were not necessarily thinking like we might today (or, rather, that they were thinking quite a bit like our colonial ancestors..when they met subhuman savage races of non-men).  It was a special creation of a special people.  A divine master race.  There were other people about, obviously.

Back to reality...cain simply stands in for those elements of their own society that adopted the others way of life, and went out into the world to intermingle with them.  In this way they can demonize other ways of life -while claiming credit for their achievements....just as the narrative would later do with the nation of Egypt.

Still borderline incomprehensible, I see.

OFC.....I'm not trying to make their stories anything other than what they are...only shining a light on -what- they are, lol.

(July 18, 2016 at 5:38 pm)Rhythm Wrote: OFC.....I'm not trying to make their stories anything other than what they are...only shining a light on -what- they are, lol.

No, I just mean your style of writing sometimes. Your thoughts seem as if they come out of nowhere at times. But it's ok, I've gotten used to it. It must be one of your things. Mine's being an asshole for no reason every now and then.

(July 18, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(July 18, 2016 at 5:38 pm)Rhythm Wrote: OFC.....I'm not trying to make their stories anything other than what they are...only shining a light on -what- they are, lol.

No, I just mean your style of writing sometimes. Your thoughts seem as if they come out of nowhere at times. But it's ok, I've gotten used to it. It must be one of your things. Mine's being an asshole for no reason every now and then.

Sad to say, many people seem intent on just being an arsehole.

They come from the tree...upon which I/we/he/she/shim/it hung for nine days.  Or ten, or thirteen.  Can't remember.  

Religious narratives are, at the heart....somewhat random.  At least they seem to be, until you place them in context...like the bit about Cain and who he and his wife was. The farmer, father of civilization, metalworking...a murderer....oblivious regarding death or consequence...all of those things that might tempt an impoverished shepherd to leave the fold.

(July 18, 2016 at 5:45 pm)Rhythm Wrote: They come from the tree...upon which I/we/he hung for nine days.  Or ten, or thirteen.  We can't remember.  

Religious narratives are, at the heart....somewhat random.  At least they seem to be, until you place them in context...like the bit about Cain and who he and his wife was.  The farmr, father of civilization, metalworking....all of those thigs that might tempt a an impoverished shepherd to leave the fold.

Your style of discourse is incredible. Like stream of consciousness with doses of beautiful syntax.

Never change.

I have a certain first cousin with rather large (  o  Y  o  ) that I wouldn't mind having a go at.