(August 14, 2016 at 6:06 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(August 14, 2016 at 6:05 pm)The_Empress Wrote: ... but you have no right to say that. You know nothing about why I'm an atheist.

Look: I'm not trying to be argumentative. I just hate it when people don't understand what the word "atheism" actually means.

It's okay to disagree.  And, I was not singling you out, in particular.  

Yes you were. Bold mine.

Quote:I would say that in a world dominated by theistic thought (unless, you're living somewhere in northern Europe) where atheists (at least in the US) are the most distrusted minority that your atheism (whether "weak" or "strong") has its foundation in some underlying principles (or, "stances".)

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(August 14, 2016 at 5:50 pm)abaris Wrote:

(August 14, 2016 at 5:46 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It's that simple.

No, it's not. But for that you'd have to have some basic knowledge of history. Which you obviously have not. And you refrain from listening to someone who has. It's that simple.

Send a letter to the National Review and tell them to correct their story.  And, while you're at it, update the Wikipedia articles, also.  And, yes, while I am no historian, military history has interested me over the years.  By the way, why did the Muslims attack Constantinople in 1453?  And, if they were so tolerant, why did they turn the Hagia Sophia into a Muslim Mosque as soon as the city fell?

(August 14, 2016 at 6:10 pm)Jehanne Wrote: By the way, why did the Muslims attack Constantinople in 1453? 

Yeah, why did the Ottomans attack Constantinople. Do your homework.

(August 14, 2016 at 6:10 pm)The_Empress Wrote:

(August 14, 2016 at 6:06 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It's okay to disagree.  And, I was not singling you out, in particular.  

Yes you were. Bold mine.

Quote:I would say that in a world dominated by theistic thought (unless, you're living somewhere in northern Europe) where atheists (at least in the US) are the most distrusted minority that your atheism (whether "weak" or "strong") has its foundation in some underlying principles (or, "stances".)

My initial reply was to Drich; that's when you jumped-in, saying how offended you were.  Of course, atheists are not all cut from the same clothe.

(August 14, 2016 at 6:12 pm)abaris Wrote:

(August 14, 2016 at 6:10 pm)Jehanne Wrote: By the way, why did the Muslims attack Constantinople in 1453? 

Yeah, why did the Ottomans attack Constantinople. Do your homework.

To conquer it.

(August 14, 2016 at 6:16 pm)Jehanne Wrote: To conquer it.

And why did Mehmet II do it? And how did he treat the survivors?

(August 14, 2016 at 6:18 pm)abaris Wrote:

(August 14, 2016 at 6:16 pm)Jehanne Wrote: To conquer it.

And why did Mehmet II do it? And how did he treat the survivors?

Why don't you tell us, Mr Historian?

(August 14, 2016 at 6:19 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Why don't you tell us, Mr Historian?  

Because I'm curious how our friend answers that question. One is along his simplistic lines. The other one is in agreement with the scientific community. Why should I spoil the fun?

(August 14, 2016 at 6:13 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(August 14, 2016 at 6:10 pm)The_Empress Wrote: Yes you were. Bold mine.

My initial reply was to Drich; that's when you jumped-in, saying how offended you were.  Of course, atheists are not all cut from the same clothe.

How are you not getting this? Are you just being willful or what?

(August 14, 2016 at 6:18 pm)abaris Wrote:

(August 14, 2016 at 6:16 pm)Jehanne Wrote: To conquer it.

And why did Mehmet II do it? And how did he treat the survivors?

Many of them died, as they ran through the streets early in the wee hours of the morning, screaming for the Blessed Virgin Mary to save them.  The Byzantine emperor, Constantine, fell like a hero before the gates of his city.  After the conquest, the Muslim army spent three days plundering the city:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Co...ring_phase