(August 21, 2016 at 2:04 am)Maelstrom Wrote: When one truly understands theology, god is the monster and the devil was the one brave enough to stand up to the monster.

B.S.

After thousands of conversations with atheists and agnostics the overwhelming objection I see with the Christian God is an objection surrounding morality.

Hard evidence, science, biblical errors or inconsistencies, are all flimsy and debatable.

I cannot speak in depth to your personal objections with God as it appears the OP is referring to Islamic beliefs.

At 12, do you believe you have given due diligence to investigating theism and applying logic and reason to determine what best explains many of life's big questions?

I would challenge you to do so.

Logic and reason is but one of the things that helps people open their eyes to the hypocrisy and foolishness that is called religion. Once people do that, they are free from the chains that bind them to the brainwashing and cruel joke of being a sheeple and they no longer have the need to chase after a magical sky daddy.

(August 21, 2016 at 10:10 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Logic and reason is but one of the things that helps people open their eyes to the hypocrisy and foolishness that is called religion. Once people do that, they are free from the chains that bind them to the brainwashing and cruel joke of being a sheeple and they no longer have the need to chase after a magical sky daddy.

Misleading and erroneous. I am not chained by a pursuit of a magical sky daddy. My application of logic and reason led me to see that atheism is untenable and self defeating. Brainwashing, hypocrisy, and people being sheeple is rampant in atheism as well as any religion.

So many people here would love to label Christians as blind, uneducated, emotionally needy, illogical, brainwashed morons. I would readily compare brainpans, pedigrees and personal accomplishments with anyone here.

Again, most objections to Christianity are morally based, most often because of a personal lifestyle, not because of "science" or biblical errors, etc.

(August 21, 2016 at 9:57 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote: After thousands of conversations with atheists and agnostics the overwhelming objection I see with the Christian God is an objection surrounding morality.

Hard evidence, science, biblical errors or inconsistencies, are all flimsy and debatable.

I cannot speak in depth to your personal objections with God as it appears the OP is referring to Islamic beliefs.

At 12, do you believe you have given due diligence to investigating theism and applying logic and reason to determine what best explains many of life's big questions?

I would challenge you to do so.

I can question, I'll find answers everynow and then, but do real think a fairy tale can explain the universe?

And first off, the modern bible is.bullshit/forgery it was used to convert people, the real bible (ingel) was.more like the quran.

And im not only refering to.allah.

I suggest people.of all ages investigate. Age doesnt matter, its intellect.
And every day I keep learning about the universe.

I almost converted a few times till I used critical thinking.

I won't ever.know the truth, maybe even after I die

But I have a question.
Have you questioned God.
If you have...
May your mind rest at peace.

(August 21, 2016 at 10:25 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote:

(August 21, 2016 at 10:10 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Logic and reason is but one of the things that helps people open their eyes to the hypocrisy and foolishness that is called religion. Once people do that, they are free from the chains that bind them to the brainwashing and cruel joke of being a sheeple and they no longer have the need to chase after a magical sky daddy.

Misleading and erroneous. I am not chained by a pursuit of a magical sky daddy. My application of logic and reason led me to see that atheism is untenable and self defeating. Brainwashing, hypocrisy, and people being sheeple is rampant in atheism as well as any religion.

So many people here would love to label Christians as blind, uneducated, emotionally needy, illogical, brainwashed morons. I would readily compare brainpans, pedigrees and personal accomplishments with anyone here.

Again, most objections to Christianity are morally based, most often because of a personal lifestyle, not because of "science" or biblical errors, etc.

Ignore those who have something against you. If they question the religion though, its up to you.

(August 21, 2016 at 2:02 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Believers been telling me while I was still a believer "God owns everything and plus he let you exist, so you should accept his injustice, brutality, chaos in his universe and simply comply with his commandments, unless you want to be tortured for your lustful life".

It seems god allows pleasure to torture us, for his pleasure.

(August 21, 2016 at 10:25 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote:

(August 21, 2016 at 10:10 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Logic and reason is but one of the things that helps people open their eyes to the hypocrisy and foolishness that is called religion. Once people do that, they are free from the chains that bind them to the brainwashing and cruel joke of being a sheeple and they no longer have the need to chase after a magical sky daddy.

Misleading and erroneous.  I am not chained by a pursuit of a magical sky daddy.  My application of logic and reason led me to see that atheism is untenable and self defeating.  Brainwashing, hypocrisy, and people being sheeple is rampant in atheism as well as any religion.  

So many people here would love to label Christians as blind, uneducated, emotionally needy, illogical, brainwashed morons.  I would readily compare brainpans, pedigrees and personal accomplishments  with anyone here.  

Again, most objections to Christianity are morally based, most often because of a personal lifestyle, not because of "science" or biblical errors, etc.

Your god is misleading and erroneous. You lack logic and you clearly don't understand atheism at all if you think it is self defeating and untenable. Atheism, in and of itself is a lack of belief in a god or any god. How exactly is that self defeating? 
How is being a sheeple rampant in atheism, exactly?

I seem to have struck a nerve with you. Good. You can look at it as I'm your God and I'm testing you to see how you react. Now, ask yourself, WWJD? Would he go off and say the things you have said? I think not.

Well, Pete, looks like the OP just wants to pick a fight. He's a troll. As for me I'm putting him on block.

Hey Chad, the OP is 12. So you're going to block him because at his tender age he participates in conversation on a forum and gets people to think when he could be playing video games or hanging out with his friends? Way to go dude.