It's nice to have a variety of perspectives, but when it comes to cosmogony, anything other than absolute bewilderment is (IMO) delusional.

Why is "nothing" the assumed default position? Something from nothing is less plausible than a something that vacates space to create a relative "nothing" (vacuum state) with smaller parts of "something-ness" flying around inside.

Maybe there is something and there is nothing.

(August 24, 2016 at 1:56 am)robvalue Wrote: Maybe there is something and there is nothing.

Well there is now...but before the inflation of our time-space "nothingness"?

Or are you thinking of a true absence?

I don't know what I meant really. I was trying to sound deep.

Maybe even nothingness can experience itself...

Guy from inspirational videos sounds like Eldar from Warhammer 40k. F*** space and universe. This is too idealistic. People dont care about unity and space when were potentialy on the verge of WW3 because of the resources.

(August 24, 2016 at 4:16 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Guy from inspirational videos sounds like Eldar from Warhammer 40k. F*** space and universe. This is too idealistic. People dont care about unity and space when were potentialy on the verge of WW3 because of the resources.

Would knowing the nested manifold of space-time and the ability to tap into the fundamental torque of the universe be helpful?

We are running out of resources because they are poorly managed, horded and we still practice "caveman tech"

Atom bombs is caveman tech (smashing shit together), particle collides (smashing shit together) lauching vehicles into space is ridiculously wasteful and polluting.

A developing species either learns how the universe actually works and works with it, or it destroys it's biosphere and then the planet usually destroys the civilization if it doesn't destroy itself first from it's own greed, ignorance, and shortsightedness.

The universe has a way of self cleaning, and we put ourselves on the shit list.

(August 24, 2016 at 4:16 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Guy from inspirational videos sounds like Eldar from Warhammer 40k. F*** space and universe. This is too idealistic. People dont care about unity and space when were potentialy on the verge of WW3 because of the resources.

That "guy" is Carl Sagan.  I'm surprised that you did not recognize him immediately, but, perhaps, I am getting old!

His first line, 'the cosmos is all that ever was, all that is or ever will be', is in my opinion, something that we will never ever know.