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hate the sin, love the sinner
#91
RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
I also love comparing other people to drug addicts. That's how they know I care.

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I don't believe you. Get over it.
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#92
RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
(August 31, 2016 at 2:52 am)mcolafson Wrote: how does it work? or doesn't...

Because personalities and behaviors are different. Because intentions and results are different.
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#93
RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
(September 4, 2016 at 2:07 pm)Jesster Wrote:
(September 4, 2016 at 2:05 pm)Drich Wrote: then why post?

To troll you lol. This is how much I value you at this point.

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ROFLOL
Youre trolling me???

I have broken you down to responding through memes.. People outside of highschool typically identify this as a sign of defeat. When one typically starts out with words and is reduced to memes it shows a broken intellect. Your thoughts/your efforts failed so an appeal to memes generally shows a desperate need to communicate emotion on a base level that you yourself can't seem to communicate adequately. (it is a literary way to lash out visually when your words fail you.)

The fury and rage of willy wonka, to try and End what you perceive as an assault, then an effort to regain control by feigning detachment through a cartoon, followed be a care giver/compassion person telling me I do not matter All REEKS of someone trying to trigger an emotional response.

I say all of that to say, yes in your little mind you maybe 'trolling me' but you have a long long way to go before you will see your desired response. Why? because I am where I want to be and I have you where I want you to be in this conversation. Get it all out. Then over the coming weeks continue to "troll me" by reading what I say to others and try and snipe comments. But know for that effort to be successful your going to have to read and respond to what it is I am actually saying, and not post crap on what you think my position should be. which is how you will finally be force fed some of what I am trying to tell you now. Understand what you are doing has already been done by just about everyone here, and while you may not be able to endure the sting of what I have to say long enough to read this far, the person I was having this same conversation with several weeks or months ago can, and it is to them I am speaking anyway... Maybe we can pick up this conversation in a couple of months when you find yourself, and regain your words..
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#94
RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
(September 4, 2016 at 4:17 pm)Drich Wrote:


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I don't believe you. Get over it.
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#95
RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
(September 4, 2016 at 4:19 pm)Jesster Wrote: [Image: e09.jpg]

And pixels.
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#96
RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
(September 4, 2016 at 3:57 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 4, 2016 at 2:47 pm)Cecelia Wrote: It's so interesting to me that often Christians lack the compassion to show what is true love.  The idea of 'hate the sin, love the sinner' is one great example of that.  They believe that they can sit and silently judge someone as a sinner, while still having love for them.  This isn't love at all, of course.  But they don't get that.  Because their book has such a warped idea of what love is, that they have a warped idea of what love is.  They wouldn't know what love was if it bit them in the ass.

Because sin is an abstract uniquely christian concept, and you can not POSSIBLY Love someone who sins against you (if sin were a thing...)
Dodgy

Which is why I liken loving a sinner hating a sin to loving a family member who was an addict.

As it is possible to love a child or spouse addicted to a drug, and HATE the Pain they bring into your life as an addict.

Using a bullshit word rooted in superstition like the word "sin" does not make a sky hero vs a ground villain battling over the neurons in your brain to make one an addict a real thing. It is absurd to think atheists are incapable of having the same reactions and emotions to the actions of others that a theist may have. 

What makes one an addict are chemical addictions, not super heros vs super villains.
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#97
RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
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I don't believe you. Get over it.
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#98
RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
(September 4, 2016 at 2:04 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 4, 2016 at 5:04 am)Thena323 Wrote: Yes, you did mention it was over a lifetime. Sorry about that. 
I was on a ridonkulously short break from my Saturday at the salt mines and didn't read it as carefully as I would've liked.

Couldn't even finish my frickin' noodles; rush, rush, rush.

are those like ramen noodles? My grandmother (who spoke no english) called them New-do's We HATED New-do's. We called them Old-doo (old poop) I don't think she ever got the joke.

heh heh...frickin' noodles as in "Are you frickin' kiddin' me?" Big Grin   

On weekends, several of the Filipina nurses bring it. Food.  
Lots of it. 

I was eating vegetable pancit : Very thin, thread-like, rice noodles that become soft just by soaking in warm water a couple of minutes. Then they get tossed in a pan with oil, garlic, shallots, vegetables and whatever else strikes one's fancy.

Quote:She would start with the Ramen beef, and then put a table spoon of Korean ketchup (Gochijang) in them which would set "both holes on fire" (one now and one about 8 hours from now) Or she would put Cheong-guk-jang (or stinky bean paste) in it which litterally looks and smells like mashed up dog poo (hence Old doo's) Basically it is mashed up and firmented soybeans, left out in the sun in jars to bake for weeks. Looks and smells bad tastes so good! (which is why when they say smell is like 90% of taste I know its a lie.) This stuff tastes nothing like it smells. But it makes you smell like it smells.

Well, I have tried a bit of Filipino bagoong; a "stinky" paste made from fermented fish or krill. It actually didn't taste nearly as potent as it smelled. 
Not bad, just a bit too salty for my liking. 

I do like very hot stuff, so the Korean ketchup sounds like something I would try; I'm not too keen on the prospect of delayed ass burning, though.

I'd definitely use less than a tablespoon.
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#99
RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
(September 3, 2016 at 11:10 am)Drich Wrote:
(September 2, 2016 at 2:59 pm)Jesster Wrote: And again it does not seem like you have read what I have written. Funny how that works. The difference is that you are going way off-topic to a point that I don't care about. I am selecting the parts that are on topic and sticking to them. Let's do that some more.

MY "BIG SIN" THAT CHRISTIANS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ISN'T A FUCKING CHOICE.
HEY (not) Stupid If you Don't read anything else Read The Following!
Christianity Says SIN IS NOT!!!! A CHOICE. We All Sin All The Time!!!

THE CHOICE IS MAKING THE SIN APART OF WHO YOU ARE, or rebel against it.

We Choose To Either Adopt The Sin, Or Reject It By Repenting Of It. At No Point Do We Ever Say We Can Be Free From It.

All of the 'stuff that was way off topic' explained this!

You btw can not or will not identify as anything or anyone other than your sin!
So when someone speaks negatively about your sin they speak negitivly about you. I am the oppsite. My sin does not define who I am. Yes I am still a slave to sin, but I am not defined by it. I hate my sin, yet still can love and respect myself. In turn I can also show the same grace to others as God has shown me, when the do decide to choose to separate themselves from their sin.

Quote:Oh, unless you want me to choose between that and suicide. Wait, that's a sin too, right?
It is not an unforgivable sin.
Quote:And yet your god (who I will remind you that I don't believe exists, yet you do) shows no love for me anyway. This is called hypocrisy. Can we say hypocrisy, kids?
I'm sorry I'm confused. or either your confused.. What make you think God owes you 'love' as you define it?

Quote: By following with what you think your sky daddy thinks of me (which I think is all in your head anyway) you are reflecting that hate onto me.
What "sky Daddy thinks" of His lost son or daughter is outlined in the story of the prodigal son. Do you know this story? In turn You are right because I support God in what He does I also see you as He sees you. Which is why I am taking the time to try and tell you how to "find your way back home."

Quote:There. That didn't take long.
ROFLOL Of course it didn't.. That is why it is called a strawman argument. If however you with to actually address the points I brought up found in scripture, you might find your 'that was easy argument' does not apply in any way shape or form.

Quote:Now please go back to voting away my rights because of your religious zealotry. Oh, make sure to compare my life to a drug addict's again while you're at it.

Asshat.
The comparison is closer than you think. The only reason I used the example of an Addict is because your 'morality' is ever shifting with very few if any absolutes. But, even if philosophically you can not call addiction to a drug a sin you can't justify or approve the absolute devastation that trying to love an addict rains down on the addict, and the family. This devastation is how God sees all sin. So again even if you can justify and dismiss all sin philosophically, most if not all of us can relate to the pain addiction can cause. And most of can also relate how to seperate the sin/addiction from the love of the family member who is addicted.

You know, we could make a television show out of this. Anybody up for funding a new series, "Drich says the stupidest shit"?
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RE: hate the sin, love the sinner
(September 2, 2016 at 5:17 pm)Jesster Wrote:
(September 2, 2016 at 5:14 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: If you say so?

Ah. So it has come to one-line non-answers. No need to add anything useful. I will take this as you conceding in the argument until you say otherwise.

It was a quick answer, because I was trying not to change subjects. The problem for materialist and many atheists, is in providing a foundation for their moral view. Even in moral pragmatism, one can very easily reason, to killing a group of people. It is going to be determined by your moral purpose and goal. When asking "why"; to a moral relativist, it very often comes back, to because "I said so".

So we are left with who is saying so! Who decides the purpose and function that the morals are based on? I think that God, as creator has that right. Now in the case of sexual immortality, I do believe that it is harmful; and that it changes our views into something ugly and unhealthy. I know that I regret my sins in this area.
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