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Do you see any benefits to religious faith?
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 (September 15, 2016 at 12:50 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Yes. And self consistent in the story with faith based on evidential demonstration. "...believe on the works that I do." Yet, it is still a work of fiction with no basis for evidence to support anything that was written.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter  (September 15, 2016 at 12:20 am)Maelstrom Wrote: Religious faith is mere delusion. In the end, people need to learn to discard the delusion. They need to learn that it is healthier to understand and accept the harsh truth rather than to become victims to the comfortable lie. Your confusion is completely understandable when the religious adherents don't even understand and operate incorrectly.......because the concept has been taken from them. Luke 11:52 "Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering."
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
You might want to realize that grammar in quotes is very important. Your quote is meaningless, because the usage of were speaks solely of past tense rather than anything present or future.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter RE: Do you see any benefits to religious faith?
September 15, 2016 at 1:05 am
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2016 at 1:06 am by Arkilogue.)
(September 15, 2016 at 12:51 am)Maelstrom Wrote:(September 15, 2016 at 12:50 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Yes. And self consistent in the story with faith based on evidential demonstration. "...believe on the works that I do." Yeah, let me tell you a story called Mody Dick, it's a classic! You'll love it, it's about an obsessed captain chasing a giant white manatee. Bigger and meaner than any other dugong out there!  What? It was a whale? That's not what everyone says today, and even if it was, that was a long time ago and it's the current year. It's just fiction, accuracy isn't important! 
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder (September 15, 2016 at 1:05 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Yeah, let me tell you a story called Mody Dick, it's a classic! You'll love it, it's about an obsessed captain chasing a giant white manatee. Bigger and meaner than any other dugong out there! I fail to follow your ill logic. Fiction is fiction.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter (September 15, 2016 at 12:56 am)Maelstrom Wrote: You might want to realize that grammar in quotes is very important. Your quote is meaningless, because the usage of were speaks solely of past tense rather than anything present or future. Oh my stars, you're right. I'm sure they never did it again and immediately and gave back the key of knowledge to the people. Come on man...
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder (September 15, 2016 at 1:10 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Oh my stars, you're right. I'm sure they never did it again and immediately and gave back the key of knowledge to the people. And it is no surprise that you entirely missed the point.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter RE: Do you see any benefits to religious faith?
September 15, 2016 at 1:14 am
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2016 at 1:14 am by Arkilogue.)
(September 15, 2016 at 1:11 am)Maelstrom Wrote:(September 15, 2016 at 1:10 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Oh my stars, you're right. I'm sure they never did it again and immediately and gave back the key of knowledge to the people. Oh I get the point, it's just superfluous.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder (September 15, 2016 at 1:14 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Oh I get the point, it's just superfluous. Only in your weakened opinion.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter RE: Do you see any benefits to religious faith?
September 15, 2016 at 2:33 am
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2016 at 2:34 am by Arkilogue.)
(September 15, 2016 at 1:15 am)Maelstrom Wrote:(September 15, 2016 at 1:14 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Oh I get the point, it's just superfluous.  Even if you want to assume Jesus was talking about the building temple and not the inner kingdom of heaven, my point stands because PEOPLE CAME TO THE TEMPLE EVERYDAY. You want to split hairs and strains gnats? Have more! Luke 11:52 New Living Translation "What sorrow awaits you experts in religious law! For you remove the key to knowledge from the people. You don't enter the Kingdom yourselves, and you prevent others from entering." Berean Literal Bible Woe to you lawyers, for you have taken away the key of knowledge. You yourselves did not enter, and you hindered those who are entering." Aramaic Bible in Plain English “Woe to you Scribes, because you have taken away the keys of knowledge! You have not entered and those who are entering you have hindered.” Say the only way to get to your house is a bridge and I destroy the bridge. I have hindered all those who are trying to enter. As a final note, here's the original Greek: http://biblehub.com/text/luke/11-52.htm 1525 [e] eiserchomenous εἰσερχομένους are entering V-PPM/P-AMP
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Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder |
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