(September 15, 2016 at 2:02 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: And as you are all so thankfully committed to hardcore science, that alone should raise some serious red flags.

Peace.

Yes, you know what science requires to be called science? It's called peer review. Not some doctor making claims without anyone of real credit jumping the same train.

(September 15, 2016 at 1:58 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 1:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm not interested. It wasn't a demolition, and I'm not going to waste my data plan on watching that.

Now, if you're able to explain in your own words how you think three demo crews could wire three buildings housing tens of thousands of workers without being noticed by the janitors, the food service crews, the HVAC, I'm all ears.

Unless you think they were in on it too.

Gosh, your conspiracy keeps getting bigger!

Yes, this is getting ridiculous, and perhaps it's time I put a stop to it.

It was me. I brought down the buildings.

I also delivered Obama in Kenya. And I was the photographer for the Apollo moon landing hoax.

Why'd it take you three shots to get Kennedy? Ray Charles could have hit the bastard right as he was turning in front of the TSBD.

Come back when you find evidence of your claims. So much conspiracy and not a Snowden amongst them. The treasury impact of keeping nice and silent conspirators would be noticeable, even in the US. Dunno, do the US publish the accounting results of the federal budget? There's the place to look. If there is a conspiracy, find the money. There should be some very expensive toilets listed somewhere.

(September 15, 2016 at 2:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 8:32 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Tell me how you know the molten material is steel and not aluminum?

It's unreasonable to assume otherwise seeing how aluminum is 3 times more expensive than steel.

Not really. Many of the non load supporting structures will be aluminium and other alloys. Also airliners are almost entirerly made of aluminium alloy.

(September 15, 2016 at 2:08 pm)abaris Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 2:02 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: And as you are all so thankfully committed to hardcore science, that alone should raise some serious red flags.

Peace.

Yes, you know what science requires to be called science? It's called peer review. Not some doctor making claims without anyone of real credit jumping the same train.

So consensus = truth?

I'd limit my posts to more reputable sources from people inside the Gov at the time and peer reviewed articles but the interest is obviously not here.
We all have our forgone conclusions now don't we?

(September 15, 2016 at 2:23 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 2:08 pm)abaris Wrote: Yes, you know what science requires to be called science? It's called peer review. Not some doctor making claims without anyone of real credit jumping the same train.

So consensus = truth?

I'd limit my posts to more reputable sources from people inside the Gov at the time and peer reviewed articles but the interest is obviously not here.
We all have our forgone conclusions now don't we?

Wait, you were the one who claimed these things were proven? The only reputable source that you've posted so far was the FEMA report, and that didn't even say what you had claimed. By all means please show me some real proof, and I'm more than happy to be wrong. Peer reviewed articles would be a good start. Sketchy eyewitness reports and trurther videos do not count.

(September 15, 2016 at 2:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 8:32 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Tell me how you know the molten material is steel and not aluminum?

It's unreasonable to assume otherwise seeing how aluminum is 3 times more expensive than steel. IMO You really would only use aluminum in the place of steel if you needed to save weight, but then I don't know a whole lot when it come to building skyscrapers so who knows?

A big shiny aluminum plane crashed into the building one floor above the molten metal trails. Coincidence?

(September 15, 2016 at 2:09 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 1:58 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Yes, this is getting ridiculous, and perhaps it's time I put a stop to it.

It was me. I brought down the buildings.

I also delivered Obama in Kenya. And I was the photographer for the Apollo moon landing hoax.

Why'd it take you three shots to get Kennedy? Ray Charles could have hit the bastard right as he was turning in front of the TSBD.

Wasn't me. My handler presented the wrong playing card that day, so instead of being in Dallas, as I was supposed to, I ended up playing poker with a group of drunken transvestites in New Orleans. Confusing times.

I'm especially irritated with Oliver Stone. I should have merited a small character role in "JFK".

(September 15, 2016 at 3:29 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 2:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: It's unreasonable to assume otherwise seeing how aluminum is 3 times more expensive than steel. IMO You really would only use aluminum in the place of steel if you needed to save weight, but then I don't know a whole lot when it come to building skyscrapers so who knows?

A big shiny aluminum plane crashed into the building one floor above the molten metal trails. Coincidence?

Please explain how this molten metal located near the top of this huge skyscraper caused the building to collapse in on itself the way it did? I genuinely want to know.

A demolition team couldn't have done a better job.

(September 15, 2016 at 2:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: It's unreasonable to assume otherwise seeing how aluminum is 3 times more expensive than steel. IMO You really would only use aluminum in the place of steel if you needed to save weight, but then I don't know a whole lot when it come to building skyscrapers so who knows?

Was 9 11 a conspiracy? Who knows? I know one thing, you'll never find answers if you're not willing to ask questions.

But you know that planes use a considerable amount of aluminium, do you? You also know that planes actually flew into the buildings. I saw the footage the moment it happened. There are certain instances in life where you know exactly where you have been. And I happened to be at my favorite watering hole the moment it happened. It was in the afternoon in the part of Europe I'm based and I had some words with the landlady, since the usual crowd hadn't gathered as of yet.

You also know how many people had to be in the know if this had indeed been a conspiracy? The planes are a fact. Thousands of eyewitnesses and life video footage confirm that. How big would you think the chances be of none of the blowing over a period of 15 years?

Hell, for the sake of argument I give you the planes and let's talk about a controlled explosion at ground zero, as the tinfoily crew claims. How many people are required and how much planning and actual work would be required to bring the towers down? While the towers are still operating as usual, with workers, clerks and employees in them.

How big are the chances of noone crying fire and noone blowing after the fact?

Given all of the above, I go with the vast majority of experts being in agreement on the reasons why the towers fell and what really happened at that day. I give them much more credit than the guys being covered in a tinfoil condome and constantly aske what if without anyone in their right minds taking them seriously.

I watched it when it happened. I sat glued in front of the tv. And I'm saying that as someone who loathed Bush and his cronies with a vengeance.

(September 15, 2016 at 4:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Please explain how this molten metal located near the top of this huge skyscraper caused the building to collapse in on itself the way it did? I genuinely want to know.

A demolition team couldn't have done a better job.

Go with the experts if you please. They gave a very comprehensive report starting days after the event. I'm no expert, so I won't repeat anything from the top of my head. But it has been explained. Not a piece of molten metal but several factors coming together. Most of all weight and heat. Structures up high started to collapse and the sheer weight of floors collapsing on each other causing the fall of the towers. That's the layman's recollection. Look up what they said in detail.