The last time I posted in an enrico thread (his original name here), years ago I think now, I said he was certainly the most deluded and the most dangerous person on here. I said this because of some of the claims he made about being able to heal people using his intuitional science (or whatever it was), and the fact I believe he mentioned in some post in the past that he was/is a nurse.

This was very concerning to me, as obviously having someone so utterly deluded in contact with people is naturally worrying. But I think I may have overestimated it. I just think he's looking to convince someone what he says is true, factual somehow, probably because he gets rebuked about it in RL. I would also hazard a guess to say that I believe he has some sort of mental health condition, perhaps schizophrenia or something that induces delusions on a far grander scale than your average person. I caveat that though by saying I am not medically trained in any sort of way so It's just my opinions based on years of (unfortunately) having to read through the utter dross that comes out of his keyboard. I also state the above not as a criticism, just as an observation. Mental illness isn't a laughing matter, nor is it a reason to criticise someone.

(September 25, 2016 at 12:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 25, 2016 at 9:24 am)Little Rik Wrote: Even if that is true the brain is still in the impossibility to create sharp and clear description of an event or experience.
It would be like a drunkard description so no only an alive consciousness can provide a sharp and clear description.

And you know this how?  This is just another unsupported assertion.  What's your evidence that this would be the case?

You're imagining consciousness is like a linear phenomena that if you turn down the brain, you turn down the consciousness.  That's an absurd assumption.

Fool.  

As far as there is a parallelism between body-brain and consciousness when one is in trouble also the other suffer.
The two are stuck together like a driver inside a vehicle.
As soon as the parallelism doesn't exist anymore because the body-brain die then the consciousness is not bound anymore to be stuck in that dead body-brain and is now free.
Free until a new suitable body is fit for such a consciousness so she can continue her journey towards the goal of life.
This thinking is not only part of yoga philosophy but has also been understood by thousand of NDEs experiences.  

(September 26, 2016 at 8:21 am)Little Rik Wrote: As far as there is a parallelism between body-brain and consciousness when one is in trouble also the other suffer.
The two are stuck together like a driver inside a vehicle.

Oh look, more assertions. And still no evidence. Thanks, "No Evidence" Rik!

Remember the four A's:

Assertions
Arguments by metaphor
Abuse
Anecdotes

You too can be a spirituality guy.

(September 26, 2016 at 8:40 am)robvalue Wrote: Remember the four A's:

Assertions
Arguments by metaphor
Abuse
Anecdotes

You too can be a spirituality guy.

(September 25, 2016 at 2:17 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: The last time I posted in an enrico thread (his original name here), years ago I think now, I said he was certainly the most deluded and the most dangerous person on here. I said this because of some of the claims he made about being able to heal people using his intuitional science (or whatever it was), and the fact I believe he mentioned in some post in the past that he was/is a nurse.

This was very concerning to me, as obviously having someone so utterly deluded in contact with people is naturally worrying. But I think I may have overestimated it. I just think he's looking to convince someone what he says is true, factual somehow, probably because he gets rebuked about it in RL. I would also hazard a guess to say that I believe he has some sort of mental health condition, perhaps schizophrenia or something that induces delusions on a far grander scale than your average person. I caveat that though by saying I am not medically trained in any sort of way so It's just my opinions based on years of (unfortunately) having to read through the utter dross that comes out of his keyboard. I also state the above not as a criticism, just as an observation. Mental illness isn't a laughing matter, nor is it a reason to criticise someone.

Pan.  

Let me clear 2 point so people will know who is the one who talk garbage.  

1) About me healing people.
I did in fact but that had nothing to do with intuition.
Years ago when I was working in a nursing home an old man was on the brink to have one of his leg amputated.
The MSRA bugs were destroying his leg. (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus).
After several month trying to get rid of this disease with antibiotics the doctors gave up and an operation
to amputated the leg was discussed with the family of this man.
I felt terribly sorry also because this man was so nice.
It came in my mind about the NEEM oil which has been used in India for ages as a natural remedy against skin diseases.
I always keep NEEM oil in my house just in case.
What did I do then?
5 days a week when at work I removed the bandages in the leg of that man I cleaned all the rotten flesh
and I apply NEEM oil.
Put clean bandages back and do the treatment once again before I finish my shift.
In few days the result was impressive so the family told the doctors that the amputation was not necessary anymore.
After 3 week all bugs were dead and the leg look normal again.
This was a natural remedy that western doctors haven't got a clue about.
So nothing to do with intuitional power.
You fail badly son.
Your criticism is like a fart.

2) Let us now talk about who is deluded.

Take the consciousness.
Atheists think that we got this consciousness thanks to previous generations.
In this way the manna fall from the sky.
Gee, we got something for free, isn't that good?

FOOL.

When have you ever got something for free?
Doesn't life teach you that everything that we got come through hard work?
So who is deluded?  

(September 26, 2016 at 8:49 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 25, 2016 at 2:17 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: The last time I posted in an enrico thread (his original name here), years ago I think now, I said he was certainly the most deluded and the most dangerous person on here. I said this because of some of the claims he made about being able to heal people using his intuitional science (or whatever it was), and the fact I believe he mentioned in some post in the past that he was/is a nurse.

This was very concerning to me, as obviously having someone so utterly deluded in contact with people is naturally worrying. But I think I may have overestimated it. I just think he's looking to convince someone what he says is true, factual somehow, probably because he gets rebuked about it in RL. I would also hazard a guess to say that I believe he has some sort of mental health condition, perhaps schizophrenia or something that induces delusions on a far grander scale than your average person. I caveat that though by saying I am not medically trained in any sort of way so It's just my opinions based on years of (unfortunately) having to read through the utter dross that comes out of his keyboard. I also state the above not as a criticism, just as an observation. Mental illness isn't a laughing matter, nor is it a reason to criticise someone.

Pan.  

Let me clear 2 point so people will know who is the one who talk garbage.  

1) About me healing people.
I did in fact but that had nothing to do with intuition.
Years ago when I was working in a nursing home an old man was on the brink to have one of his leg amputated.
The MSRA bugs were destroying his leg. (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus).
After several month trying to get rid of this disease with antibiotics the doctors gave up and an operation
to amputated the leg was discussed with the family of this man.
I felt terribly sorry also because this man was so nice.
It came in my mind about the NEEM oil which has been used in India for ages as a natural remedy against skin diseases.
I always keep NEEM oil in my house just in case.
What did I do then?
5 days a week when at work I removed the bandages in the leg of that man I cleaned all the rotten flesh
and I apply NEEM oil.
Put clean bandages back and do the treatment once again before I finish my shift.
In few days the result was impressive so the family told the doctors that the amputation was not necessary anymore.
After 3 week all bugs were dead and the leg look normal again.
This was a natural remedy that western doctors haven't got a clue about.
So nothing to do with intuitional power.
You fail badly son.
Your criticism is like a fart.

Anecdote. Abuse.

Quote:2) Let us now talk about who is deluded.

Take the consciousness.
Atheists think that we got this consciousness thanks to previous generations.
In this way the manna fall from the sky.
Gee, we got something for free, isn't that good?

FOOL.

Assertions. Abuse.

Quote:When have you ever got something for free?
Doesn't life teach you that everything that we got come through hard work?
So who is deluded?  

Argument by analogy. Abuse.

(September 26, 2016 at 8:40 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 26, 2016 at 8:21 am)Little Rik Wrote: As far as there is a parallelism between body-brain and consciousness when one is in trouble also the other suffer.
The two are stuck together like a driver inside a vehicle.

Oh look, more assertions.  And still no evidence.  Thanks, "No Evidence" Rik!

Actually I was waiting for your evidence that a dead brain is capable of experience something that later on can be described in a clear and sharp way by the NDE experiencer.
How long shell I wait for your evidence my dear?  

Anecdotes. Abuse.

Can you give us anything outside of the 4 A's?

Abuse seems to be your favourite. Used to bullying people into agreeing with you in real life?

(September 26, 2016 at 9:00 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 26, 2016 at 8:40 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Oh look, more assertions.  And still no evidence.  Thanks, "No Evidence" Rik!

Actually I was waiting for your evidence that a dead brain is capable of experience something that later on can be described in a clear and sharp way by the NDE experiencer.
How long shell I wait for your evidence my dear?  

"No Evidence" Rik:

You can wait forever for all I care. As I explained before, you are the one presenting claims about the way things are, so your evidence for that worldview is what matters. I'm not defending anything here. But as always, your only trick is to attack materialism, because you can't defend your own beliefs. It's a sad ploy, and you're nothing but a con artist for employing it. Even if I had no evidence for anything, that wouldn't make you right by default. So quit your whining and get your ass back on the line. Your request for evidence is nothing but a pathetic diversion. But thanks for the red herring. I'll put it aside for later.