(October 2, 2016 at 9:21 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 1, 2016 at 11:36 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: This is pure woo.  You're back off in na-na land with things you can't provide evidence for.

Matter is a concept that includes air, water, milk, and cheese.  To say there is matter and water is thus redundant.  To claim that water is different from matter is simply wrong.  Water is matter because matter includes it.  Your analogy about cheese and milk is misguided because water isn't matter in a different form.  Matter in a different form is energy, and we do have a separate word for that.  But far be it from me to challenge your dogma.

Wrong again yog.  

To understand why the elements are separate you don't have to go very far at all.

Just look at your body and to who is controlling what.
The major gland along our spinal cord control separate factors.
At the very bottom there is a gland that control the matter (poo-poo so to speak).
A little bit above an other gland control the liquid factor (urine and semen)
Further up around the stomach the one that control the energy.
Further up around the chest the air flow.
Further up around the throat the space.
In the head the mind and something else so there is enough evidence that at every stage there is a particular gland that control a particular factor and does not control other factors.
From here you would understand that matter is solid, liquid is liquid, energy is energy, air is air and so on.
By mixing the elements as you do you pretend that one element is what in reality is not.
Get real yog.  

This is a bunch of religious claptrap. There are no glands that 'control' space and energy. This is just a bunch of dogma. From here I would understand that you're a total loon.

Little Rick, the structure of supernatural, even if its exists doesnt matter. People seek happiness. Does religion provides happiness? Barely, if you count promises of divine rewards for service.

(October 2, 2016 at 10:25 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(October 2, 2016 at 9:21 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong again yog.  

To understand why the elements are separate you don't have to go very far at all.

Just look at your body and to who is controlling what.
The major gland along our spinal cord control separate factors.
At the very bottom there is a gland that control the matter (poo-poo so to speak).
A little bit above an other gland control the liquid factor (urine and semen)
Further up around the stomach the one that control the energy.
Further up around the chest the air flow.
Further up around the throat the space.
In the head the mind and something else so there is enough evidence that at every stage there is a particular gland that control a particular factor and does not control other factors.
From here you would understand that matter is solid, liquid is liquid, energy is energy, air is air and so on.
By mixing the elements as you do you pretend that one element is what in reality is not.
Get real yog.  

This is a bunch of religious claptrap.  There are no glands that 'control' space and energy. This is just a bunch of dogma.  From here I would understand that you're a total loon.

I am absolutely puzzled to see people like you guys that went to school and possibly to uni that still believe that the universe or everything else control itself.

You often read.........the vehicle out of control .........end up or smash against a wall or a tree.....

Out of control means that nobody is in charge as you may know.
Suppose you run a business and after some time you go away letting no one in charge.
Do you think that when you come back the business will still be there?

Are you such a fool to believe that nobody control anything and everything work perfectly?  

(October 2, 2016 at 1:20 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Little Rick, the structure of supernatural, even if its exists doesnt matter. People seek happiness. Does religion provides happiness? Barely, if you count promises of divine rewards for service.

Most religions concentrate on the external factor which is usually a waste of time.
God is internal and yoga is the best way to achieve God because it is an internal process but even if you think it is external and act in good faith and with sincerity you still get there eventually as shown in hundreds of NDEs experiences.
In any case it should not be a reward for service but an effort to merge in the ocean of cosmic consciousness and become one with the all.  

God is internal. Finally we agree on something. Keep going, you're getting somewhere now!

https://youtu.be/Sqz5dbs5zmo

(October 3, 2016 at 7:23 am)robvalue Wrote: God is internal. Finally we agree on something. Keep going, you're getting somewhere now!

https://youtu.be/Sqz5dbs5zmo

What about you Roberto.  

Where are you getting to?  

(September 24, 2016 at 8:53 am)Little Rik Wrote: Atheists as the word say do not believe that there is a God but at the same time they march towards Him-Her.

Strange and bizarre isn't it?
How is possible?
Simple.
God is not a toll man with long hairs and a beard as described by Christianity or is a man.
God is a spiritual entity but let us come to the point.
Why everybody march towards Him-Her?
God is perfection and everybody march towards perfection.
Even those who commit suicide do that in order to put an end to their problems and find peace of mind.
That of course doesn't work but the reason is there anyway.
Why would anyone try to improve themselves?
Why anyone try to find peace of mind and happiness all the time?
Why anyone would think that all his-her efforts wouldn't lead to perfection and peace of mind?
The reason is that there is no other way to go.
It is impossible to escape the situation in which we are.
Many people are smart and take little time to understand that there is no other way around to follow while other people take ages and ages to get it   but at the end everybody get it.
Where else can we go other than go towards the perfection (God)?  

Have you considered debating with theBorg?

(October 3, 2016 at 8:28 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 3, 2016 at 7:23 am)robvalue Wrote: God is internal. Finally we agree on something. Keep going, you're getting somewhere now!

https://youtu.be/Sqz5dbs5zmo

What about you Roberto.  

Where are you getting to?  

Wherever this weird journey of life takes me. I'll let you know when I arrive!

(October 3, 2016 at 8:51 am)robvalue Wrote:

(October 3, 2016 at 8:28 am)Little Rik Wrote: What about you Roberto.  

Where are you getting to?  

Wherever this weird journey of life takes me. I'll let you know when I arrive!

Let us do a bet Roberto.
I bet that I will see you up there.  

Now I don't know whether we can stay there on permanent bases or we have to come back
down here for one or more reincarnation.
This will depend whether we are good boys or not.
In any case there is no hell.
Well when I will see you up there I will pat you in the back and say.......Roberto you lost the bet
but at least you haven't lost yourself.  

(October 3, 2016 at 6:33 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 2, 2016 at 1:20 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Little Rick, the structure of supernatural, even if its exists doesnt matter. People seek happiness. Does religion provides happiness? Barely, if you count promises of divine rewards for service.

Most religions concentrate on the external factor which is usually a waste of time.
God is internal and yoga is the best way to achieve God because it is an internal process but even if you think it is external and act in good faith and with sincerity you still get there eventually as shown in hundreds of NDEs experiences.
In any case it should not be a reward for service but an effort to merge in the ocean of cosmic consciousness and become one with the all.  

Im like the idea of "merging" with women better.