(October 12, 2016 at 7:59 pm)Mamacita Wrote: My chest literally hurts and my neck is about to explode. I should've stayed the fuck out of this thread, but no. I walked right in, because the original post was an interesting topic. I sincerely hope that man can someday feel what victims have felt. I'm genuinely hoping for bad things upon a human being, and as much as that makes me feel badly, I don't take it back. Let me just say one thing... that I never even said that about the rapists that I know. It took a shitty last few weeks topped by this man's careless remarks for me to wish bad things upon another human. Gawd. Fuck your morality. Fuck you and your ASK, and your arrogant ways. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Why is my position exactly? What is my morality?

Or are you using this as an opportunity to soap box you own self righteousness?

(October 13, 2016 at 12:02 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 11, 2016 at 6:38 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Um...wow.  There are many...MANY reasons women don't report assaults.  Shame.  Embarrassment.   Fear of not being believed.  Fear of being BLAMED.  Fear of the rape exam, which is just as painful and degrading as the assault its self.  Fear of their attackers.  Fear for their LIVES if their attacker has threatened them not to tell, or threatened their families.  Fear that they will subject themselves to a lengthy, mortifying trial only to have their attacker get a slap on the wrist.  Fear of bullying/ridicule/scorn by the community, especially if the accused is well liked/well known.  The sick feeling of having to verbalize what was done to you over and over, which amounts to being violated all over again. And of course, all these reasons are magnified when the victim is a very young person.  The fact that you would even suggest such nonsense demonstrates that you either don't fully understand the nature of the crime of rape, or you don't take it seriously.


Do you think all 50 something of Bill Cosby's accusers are lying?  You are disgusting dude, Drippy.  But at least your consistently disgusting on all matters regarding empathy and the human condition.  Why did you have to shit all over this thread with your nastiness?  Go back into your hole, will ya?

Do you think all 50 are telling the truth?

Do you think no one in that group was trading sex for an opportunity at stardom? Do you think no one in that group were trying to use their looks and sex to create a career for themselves, and got nothing but a story in return?

I am sure cosby crossed the line somewhere, not the point. The point is the reason for the statue of limitation is found with cosby's case. The reason being you can not prove intent on either party's side.

Time is the ONLY, not the best, but only measure of intent.

Yes people like nymphoria and K1 will fall through the cracks, but again in the vast majority of cases time will flush out the truth behind a person's intent.

Of course I don't know for sure that all 50 were telling the truth. Of COURSE some women lie about being assaulted. For lots of reasons, including the ones you just mentioned. And it's despicable. But I was never talking about SOL's. What I have been objecting to this whole time is your insane allegation that every single woman who does not report her assault is a liar, and wasn't assaulted, lol.

Rape doesn't happen in a vacuum. It's not just done, and then gone. The attacker is usually someone entrenched in the victim's life. Indeed, that's an underpinning of rape - it's not just a sexual attack, but one that exploits the power disparity between attacker and victim. The attacker usually acts because they're confident they can get away with it. And, in the most cases, they feel that confidence because things are arranged in such a way where the victim either fears retaliation or simply that no one will believe them.

So trying to present it as "If they didn't report it immediately, it didn't happen" only illustrates that you don't understand rape at all.

(October 13, 2016 at 12:43 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 11, 2016 at 10:46 pm)Thena323 Wrote:

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Don't pretend you have any interest whatsoever in justice. Or people, for that matter.

You live in a fantasy world of make-believe where every human's a deplorable, disgustingly wicked fallen angel, who's being tested by your personal god. You have no real or true concern for human suffering, because no one's actually human to you. Unless it's a matter of killing the unborn, (much-needed vessels for unclean spirits with the potential of being 'shown the way', and thereby increasing the multitude of your Father's eternal army), inconveniencing other believers, OR fucking with you personally, you'll shrug your shoulders and casually dismiss it as the consequences of sinful, wicked beings living in a sinful, wicked world, every single time. Your particularly "unique" twist on Christian faith has rendered you incapable of feeling empathy, or having a genuine interest in justice. They're foreign concepts to you, now.

Your input is useless at best, and harmful at worst when it comes addressing matters of pain and suffering, for those very reasons. 

So, you should shut up about it.
Focus on your fairy tales, instead.

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-Or
Maybe, just maybe... I've lived through enough shit to know pity/your way does not work... God aside, we live in a culture of victims, and for most anymore that is all people want to be. And if by God's grace you live through a real event that genuinely made you a victim, it like you won life's get out of responsibility card.

So again, if that is what you want fine... Every other moron on this website will help you with that... But here now (enough time has passed for proper grieving) If that person is willing to allow me to help her bury her dead I will try and do that.

First of all, you know fuck all about me or my life. If you did, you'd know that I resent the prospect of being pitied by anyone.

And if you weren't so deluded and hateful, you wouldn't be sitting here, virtually unable to recognize the difference between showing pity and exercising basic decency. 
That's a big problem, Drich. 

How do you propose that you could ever "help" anyone, when you can't even get a handle on the fucking basics? Not that anyone with half a brain would ask for it.

(October 13, 2016 at 10:30 am)KevinM1 Wrote: I think the worst thing about him is his utter lack of self-awareness.  His beliefs are obviously terrible and terrifying, but he never engages in any introspection whenever people justifiably recoil from him.  He considers himself blessed by his god, and thus by definition in the right.  If he was living in the Middle East, he's the type that would gleefully have child brides and relish decapitating kidnapped civilians.

He's American Taliban.

It's not a lack of self awareness...

It's dedication to the truth and logic.

I see a need for special handling and kit gloves.. I also see that need being filled by all the pity offers nymphoria was getting. Need filled, so no reason to add to that problem.

I also saw a need for truth. A need not being filled.

Primary of which, the argument of intent can never be established, but Time can be used to flush out intention to some sucess.

Again not a perfect process but it is the only one we have.

Then this became an argument about specifics/people falling through the cracks. (her specific situation, and how my logic did not work) Then I spoke about the merits of not coddling victims, but help them truly recover. Then I made a parallel between how she dealt with her situation as a victim and how i have dealt with my own. The primary difference She is forcing herself to relive her attack, and I can speak about my instance without pause. I even pointed out that all the nasty stuff being false ascribed to me was actually used against me. (all the monstrous things you all claim I have said, were point blank said about me and my family) yet here i am.. I was not forced to relive those events, but rather use them as examples to show the difference between being a victim and being a survivor. I've have healed from my wounds and are not controlled by events in my past...

Who doesn't want those things?

So, Before I said word one I considered the depth I'd have to go and what I may be asked to reshare, and carfully considered all of it.

Here's the real difference.. I make my decisions based on the long term good not the immediate want or emotion. You guys are a bunch of monkey men who are only driven by what makes you feel good or bad with no thought to the future.

My concern is for a person's long term well being not what they think they need in the moment, but the freedom from the evil visted upon us by evil men.

I've lived through a hell of a lot more, for a much longer drawn out time, with no support or help, and found my way through it all (in the later years) with the direct help of God. Yes I am different, but at the same time I can indeed work in both your little world and in the broader one to pretty good sucess.

I simply can choose to "cry with the monkey men" I don't have to chain myself to being a permanent victim inorder to shed a tear.

If someone told 14 yearold Drich you didn't have to be a victim/You didn't have to relive your hell, you can be incontrol and all you need do is A, B, C... I'd jump at the chance.

But I guess that is not what 'educated people' want... I simply did not want to be controlled that way.

Yes yes, we know, your life was super hard, boohoo, then you found god.

No one cares.

(October 13, 2016 at 10:41 am)Kingpin Wrote: Ok, I'd like to jump in here.  Originally the statute of limitations was set because of the difficulty to prove the accusation after a prolonged length of time, however there were also exceptions allowing the statute to be extended in instances of DNA evidence linked to the accusation.  

Drich is completely wrong here IMO.  Waiting 5 years to report someone kicking you in not the same as rape.  Being a victim of sex abuse myself, I know first hand the psychological toll it takes and the thoughts and emotions involved.  There should be no statute and there are increasingly more states bringing laws and passing them to drop, extend and amend the current statutes.  We are seeing progress because there is more awareness in to this incredible epidemic facing our country.  All sexual crimes should be indictable at any point so long as the evidence is strong enough to indict.  To put a timeline on it is wrong.

How is you opening paragraph any different than what i said?

What the fuck is wrong with you, Drich? Why can't you just leave it alone already? You've already proven yourself to be the lowest scum on this forum. Do you just not care who you hurt anymore?

@Drich
The notable presence of a recognizably human being behind the words, for starters? Or maybe it's the lack of constant segues into ones favorite godisms and this culture-isms? A positive commitment to the english language?

How much time you got buddy?