I just love how this entire thread has evolved from questioning the SOL in NEW YORK, to now we're going to spend three plus pages arguing over the word "forced".

Can we say major thread derail because one individual just can't stand when he's been put in his place with actual facts? Yeah. That.

I hear a village requesting that we return their idiot to them.

(October 18, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Some people enjoy the fantasy of rape. I count myself among them(giving, not receiving, that is).

I saw some quotes there. I'm with Drich on this. If you think me liking that fantasy makes me morally abhorrent, or a rapist, that's stupid and missed the point of what fantasy is. Reality is very different from fantasy. You beautify the former with the latter, but you never fulfill your fantasy by making it -really- real. That's wrong and it disgusts me, as I'm sure it does a lot of other perfectly normal folks who only like pretend, not make.

You are either the most boring people I've seen on the internet or liars if you sit there judging people like me.

For the third time EP, he's not talking about a fetish fantasy play.

(October 18, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Some people enjoy the fantasy of rape. I count myself among them(giving, not receiving, that is).

I saw some quotes there. I'm with Drich on this. If you think me liking that fantasy makes me morally abhorrent, or a rapist, that's stupid and missed the point of what fantasy is. Reality is very different from fantasy. You beautify the former with the latter, but you never fulfill your fantasy by making it -really- real. That's wrong and it disgusts me, as I'm sure it does a lot of other perfectly normal folks who only like pretend, not make.

You are either the most boring people I've seen on the internet or liars if you sit there judging people like me.

I don't think anyone was implying that, EP.

(October 18, 2016 at 2:36 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Some people enjoy the fantasy of rape. I count myself among them(giving, not receiving, that is).

I saw some quotes there. I'm with Drich on this. If you think me liking that fantasy makes me morally abhorrent, or a rapist, that's stupid and missed the point of what fantasy is. Reality is very different from fantasy. You beautify the former with the latter, but you never fulfill your fantasy by making it -really- real. That's wrong and it disgusts me, as I'm sure it does a lot of other perfectly normal folks who only like pretend, not make.

You are either the most boring people I've seen on the internet or liars if you sit there judging people like me.

For the third time EP, he's not talking about a fetish fantasy play.

That doesn't matter. It's still relevant to the topic at hand.

(October 18, 2016 at 1:50 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I agree with Drich, the thought that I might have sex with someone one day and they might later convince the authorities I raped them even though I didn't haunts me.

That being said, I only ever read a couple of posts on the first page. What's this thread evolved into since then?

what always happens.. I take a hard stance against what people seem to think is way out there, we go back and fourth. the smart one's get what I am saying and drop out first, then the friends of the smart ones, then once things kind get explain away, some real/middle of the road people come out say or ask what is on their mind, then not so smart ones argue their "figurens" and can't get past something trivial, then the name calling, once they run out of stuff.. i am still stuck explaining level one definitions ad nausium to faith no more, till someone like you wants a recap of a weeks worth of dialog.

(October 18, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Some people enjoy the fantasy of rape. I count myself among them(giving, not receiving, that is).

I saw some quotes there. I'm with Drich on this. If you think me liking that fantasy makes me morally abhorrent, or a rapist, that's stupid and missed the point of what fantasy is. Reality is very different from fantasy. You beautify the former with the latter, but you never fulfill your fantasy by making it -really- real. That's wrong and it disgusts me, as I'm sure it does a lot of other perfectly normal folks who only like pretend, not make.

You are either the most boring people I've seen on the internet or liars if you sit there judging people like me.

Bold mine.

You are on a very different page than drippy. He isn't talking about fantasy. Have you not been following this thread at all?

(October 18, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Nymphadora Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Some people enjoy the fantasy of rape. I count myself among them(giving, not receiving, that is).

I saw some quotes there. I'm with Drich on this. If you think me liking that fantasy makes me morally abhorrent, or a rapist, that's stupid and missed the point of what fantasy is. Reality is very different from fantasy. You beautify the former with the latter, but you never fulfill your fantasy by making it -really- real. That's wrong and it disgusts me, as I'm sure it does a lot of other perfectly normal folks who only like pretend, not make.

You are either the most boring people I've seen on the internet or liars if you sit there judging people like me.

Bold mine.

You are on a very different page than drippy. He isn't talking about fantasy. Have you not been following this thread at all?

Doesn't seem like it.

(October 18, 2016 at 2:38 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Some people enjoy the fantasy of rape. I count myself among them(giving, not receiving, that is).

I saw some quotes there. I'm with Drich on this. If you think me liking that fantasy makes me morally abhorrent, or a rapist, that's stupid and missed the point of what fantasy is. Reality is very different from fantasy. You beautify the former with the latter, but you never fulfill your fantasy by making it -really- real. That's wrong and it disgusts me, as I'm sure it does a lot of other perfectly normal folks who only like pretend, not make.

You are either the most boring people I've seen on the internet or liars if you sit there judging people like me.

I don't think anyone was implying that, EP.

Ok, I apologize, then.

(October 18, 2016 at 2:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'll admit that this is super fun to watch.

A pretty gal spanking a weirdo?

You got some odd kicks, Hoss.

(October 18, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:36 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: For the third time EP, he's not talking about a fetish fantasy play.

That doesn't matter. It's still relevant to the topic at hand.

You said in your post that fantasy is different from reality.  Drich isn't talking about the fantasy of forced sex, he's talking about the reality of it being okay.