(October 18, 2016 at 3:49 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 3:42 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: All Drich has to say is "I'm talking about bdsm fetish stuff." And this issue is dead in the water.  But he won't, because he's not.

He won't because he wants to keep the drama going, I believe.

That's probably 90% of it, honestly.  Good idea.

Backing out because it seems that the only person who has really responded to me was EP. Drippy can't even be bothered to address anything that I have cited with regards to the state laws on rape/sexual assault and the SOL, which I have taken the time out of my day to provide.

Have fun with this non-sense everyone. I should have just stayed the fuck out of this thread. Coming back into it was a huge waste of my time.

(October 18, 2016 at 3:45 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 3:40 pm)Losty Wrote: Yes I'm objecting to his opinion because he's a theist

Are you a theist? Did you know that there's a difference between using physical force and actually forcing someone to do something? You can play pretend all you like (even when it's a cultural norm and not a sex game it's still playing pretend) but the second you're legitimately forcing someone it is rape. If she's not pretending to resist it's is rape. If she's pretending to resist it is not forced sex.

Why she? Maybe male gay couples do this as well - I'm sure they do.

Yes they do and I don't see how it's relevant. Plug in your own gender nuetral words. I was just being lazy. Jeebus

(October 18, 2016 at 2:12 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:12 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: There are ways to have consensual "forced" sex. It's all about what the couple agrees to beforehand. That's not to say it ever needs to become more than roleplay, or that an actual rape will occur. It requires trust from both parties and an adequate read of what the other person wants, in addition to actual words describing what they want. Then it's all about the fantasy of it.

Forced sex =/= rough sex..

And Drich is not talking about a fetish play that's confirmed beforehand.  He's literally talking about forcing sex onto someone without confirmation.

again it is a fetish to you because it is out of the 'norm.'

But again in the proper perspective over half the planet sees what you call fetish play as how sex is supposed to work on a basic level. there is no need for confirmation, as this is how sex works.

Now granted It's not like the woman comes home and the man is ninja'd up in the rafters wearing black pajamas, poison darts her ties her up, then she quickly antidotes herself and they fight, and if she wins he has to goto a panty vending machine to 'work things out' and if he wins he gets to rape her.

It is simply a matter of a woman putting up a fight to defend her social position/honor if she is not consider to be a slut. Which is way way worse thing over there.. (girls have been known to commit suicide for being labeled this way.) It is simply not proper to enjoy sex too much or one could risk bring shame down on their whole family. So the out becomes to put up a fight (even a strong fight) but again everything is consensual.

(October 18, 2016 at 2:14 pm)Nymphadora Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:11 pm)Drich Wrote: You are the worse kind of hypocrite.. Literally, not just call you empty names. which makes it all the more fun to set you up and swing for the fences like in the last post.

bold mine.

So then you're admitting to trolling now eh, sport?

define set up and swing for the fences

(October 18, 2016 at 2:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What nuance, the nuance of rape?   Don't get pissy with me, you're the one negotiating between force and consent with your little quotation marks, lol. 

If you don't want to be held to your comments, don't share them.

@Drich
Still not what special pleading means. Don;t let that stop you, though...flail around for something to be right about, for once.  / shrugs

then you provide a link and show me where i am wrong

(October 18, 2016 at 3:57 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:14 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: bold mine.

So then you're admitting to trolling now eh, sport?

define swing for the fences

Sorry pal. I'm not going to define a phrase that you used. Especially after anyone reads this thread and can see how you horribly twist words to suit whatever you want them to, even when presented with evidence (actual state laws) that you are wrong. Take that crap and spew it elsewhere.

Classic narcissism at its core. Every. Fucking. Time.

(October 18, 2016 at 2:21 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:20 pm)Drich Wrote: No you are a bigot because you wrongfully judge whole other cultures based on what your norms are.. Plus I know being called a bigot stirs your pot, so when ever I can legitimately do so i do. (Just want you to feel welcome and apart of the discussion)

Actually, this is the first time I've been called a bigot, so how would you know what stirs my pot (sexually or otherwise)?  But again, call me what you like, s'fine with me.

Dude, your still talking about being called a bigot... I've unsettled you joy if nothing else otherwise why still talk about it?

I was just trying to match your own extreme over reaction to a minor point you were making. Like calling pro rape because you have not vetted my understanding of forced sex.

I wanted you to stop and think about what a far leap you were making, by making a far leap of my own.

I don't think your a bigot, i think your an idiot who doesn't consider the world outside what you are comfortable with, yet speaks with authority on all you don't know.

Putting Drich on ignore is doing wonders for me right now.