(October 18, 2016 at 5:13 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:35 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: If the sex was ACTUALLY forced, then it was non-consensual.  If it was consensual role play/rape fantasy/rough sex, then it was NOT ACTUALLY forced.  Why on god's green fucking earth are you making this SO difficult?!

verb
verb: force; 3rd person present: forces; past tense: forced; past participle: forced; gerund or present participle: forcing
1.
make a way through or into by physical strength; break open by force.

Only if you ignore all other definitions of the word forced.

pre·tense
ˈ
noun
1.
an attempt to make something that is not the case appear true.

synonyms: make-believe, putting on an act, acting, dissembling, shamming, faking, feigning, simulation, dissimulation, play-acting, posturing

(October 18, 2016 at 2:44 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:40 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: You said in your post that fantasy is different from reality.  Drich isn't talking about the fantasy of forced sex, he's talking about the reality of it being okay.

Well, let's ask him.

Drich, do you think actual rape is okay, or are you rather talking about fantasy rape being okay, that is, consensual roleplay about rape, and that this too could potentially wrongly put people behind bars given certain sets of circumstances?


Please restate your actual position on this as clear and concise as possible. I'm not interested in a long debate about smth else, only in your position on this. Thank you.

no rape is not ok.

If someone is raped they should report it as soon as possible as many states do indeed have SoLs. which means despite you reasoning for not reporting a rape after it happened and waiting till the Sol has expired will leave you in a position no different than if nothing ever happened. That rape is a criminal act and if the SOL expires then it is no different than an example of forced sex.

I said that there is no right way to recover if one is indeed trying to recover. I also pointed out there are those who seek to be perpetual victims to them it is just best to move on past them.

I said we need to be carful of how we defend our victims, because it is a slippery slope into trading off our rights.

(October 18, 2016 at 3:39 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 3:32 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: How does one tell when the other person changes their mind?

This is the reason I said only people who truly love, trust and understand each other to a t should do this, lest an actual rape occurs or a false one gets reported.

Safe word!!!   I like "pineapple nut sack".  [emoji1]

Pineapple... nu-nu-nut sack...??

OUCH that's gotta hurt!

(October 18, 2016 at 5:01 pm)Drich Wrote: verb
verb: force; 3rd person present: forces; past tense: forced; past participle: forced; gerund or present participle: forcing
1.
make a way through or into by physical strength; break open by force.

maybe you oughta look stuff up before you invite someone to do that very thing...

Why?

Because someone may be humble enough to examine his core vocabulary when challenged. Should I also look up sex for you as well?

Ha, it's funny how you purposefully left out the second definition, you troll...

verb
1.
make a way through or into by physical strength; break open by force.
"they broke into Fred's house and forced every cupboard door with ax or crowbar"
synonyms: break open, burst open, knock down, smash down, kick in
"the door had to be forced"
2.
make (someone) do something against their will.
"she was forced into early retirement"
synonyms: compel, coerce, make, constrain, oblige, impel, drive, pressurize, pressure, press, push, press-gang, bully, dragoon, bludgeon; More

Dammit, Just when I thought I was out...[he] pulls me back in [with his stupidity].

(October 18, 2016 at 5:24 pm)Drich Wrote: I said we need to be carful of how we defend our victims, because it is a slippery slope into trading off our rights.

You made a distinction between rape and forced sex. Probably along the lines of the husband being entitled to his "rights", since it fits your archaic views perfectly.

So no, we don't have to be careful, since it requires a whole lot of courage to stand up in public and say you have been violated. Maybe even in court where defenders will do their utmost to paint you in a negative light. It's not only females being raped, by the way. Males also get raped. In surprisingly high numbers. Oftenly in prison. But I gather that's off your radar entirely.

(October 18, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: Got a verified and reliable source for that, sport?

yuuup
http://www.prb.org/wpds/2014/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_world
http://anthro.palomar.edu/ethnicity/ethnic_5.htm

Quote:Traditionally speaking for whom, exactly? Christians? The whole world? Jews? Asians only? I mean, seriously, if you're going to toss out a phrase like that, at least appear intelligent about it. Again... verified and reliable source? Your buybull doesn't count as verified and reliable either. Otherwise, that's just your opinion.

the identifier is found in the first quote you made silly goose. Or did you forget already? The Mother/Wives we are speaking of are asian, mothers and asian wives.
http://www.coedu.usf.edu/zalaquett/mcdp/...andout.htm

Quote:With consent forced sex is how most asian people are here, and who are any of us to say that is wrong.

bold mine.

Quote:Really? You know this how? Were you in the bedrooms (or other areas fucking took place) of all of the millions and millions of "asians" when they were having sex? No? If not, Can you back this up with some serious, reliable, data? Oh wait... I don't really fucking care because none of that has anything to do with the SOL in the state of NY. And it's just your poor attempt to try and create a strawman to get you away from the logical beatdown you just got served.

You have spawned off the original topic and landed so far out in left field that you remind me of LR in a desperate attempt to look smart. Stahp. You really are making it worse for yourself, you know.

I can back this up with 20+ years of being asian/growing up korean and even dating asian girls...

a few google clicks and we come up with the term "wise mother and good wife"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Wife,_Wise_Mother

there we find There was an extremely sharp divide between a woman of pleasure, and a head of the house hold. (good mother wise wife)
The woman/wife adopted the role as head of the house/servants, children, inlaws which could include submissive/older males. If she was considered to be a wise mother/good wife. This included children many children. I know from growing up, sex was reserved for children only and the myth was if you has sex too much you would not be able to have kids. I was later told this belief was based on rampant stds and infected would go untreated and indeed become infernal.

The confusion view of marriage also high prizes celibacy and chastity, except for the express purpose of child conception.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucian_...f_marriage

(October 18, 2016 at 5:12 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Some people enjoy the fantasy of rape. I count myself among them(giving, not receiving, that is).

I saw some quotes there. I'm with Drich on this. If you think me liking that fantasy makes me morally abhorrent, or a rapist, that's stupid and missed the point of what fantasy is. Reality is very different from fantasy. You beautify the former with the latter, but you never fulfill your fantasy by making it -really- real. That's wrong and it disgusts me, as I'm sure it does a lot of other perfectly normal folks who only like pretend, not make.

You are either the most boring people I've seen on the internet or liars if you sit there judging people like me.

Whoa.. Whoaa.. Whoaaaaa..

Who said anything about having to like... A, B, or C???

I'm just pointing stuff out...

I am not a fan of any of this (which is I married a white girl.)

I like my sex like I like my ice cream, chunky monkey hold the chunk and monkey. (vanilla for rhym/I didn't want him calling me immoral for not liking bananas or nuts)

I'm curious to find out what my race is according to your drichtionary. It's clearly not white.

I'm curious to know why drich imagines white girls are as boring in bed as he is, lol. See, I'm a big fan of neopolitan. Chocolate or vanilla, no matter, as long as there's some strawberry wedged between, but as far as freaks go......well, I've met a fair few more vanilla freaks. Might just be coincidence. Maybe the white girls are all about missionary where he's from? I guess I would be too..if the place was filled with people who think that forced sex isn't rape. I'd want the guy squarely in front of me so I could line up a good shoot center mass, if needs be.

(October 18, 2016 at 3:39 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 3:32 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: How does one tell when the other person changes their mind?

This is the reason I said only people who truly love, trust and understand each other to a t should do this, lest an actual rape occurs or a false one gets reported.

Safe word!!!   I like "pineapple nut sack".  [emoji1]

Hey a little warning would be nice.  Think I just peed myself a little from laughing so hard.

(October 18, 2016 at 6:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm curious to know why drich imagines white girls are as boring in bed as he is, lol.

I think I saw the answer to this on a poster lit by a lava lamp.  It said:

When you have boredom seeing eyes, everything looks boring.