(October 25, 2016 at 7:01 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(October 25, 2016 at 6:58 am)robvalue Wrote: I'm glad that the discussion has mostly been non-hysterical. It's such a taboo subject that just talking about it is often a problem. That's the first thing that needs to change in my opinion.

If anyone gets the chance to see "The Missing" (series 1), it is a British drama which happens to touch on these issues. It is one of the few shows I've ever seen that shows any paedophile in a somewhat sympathetic light. I think it gives a good portrayal of the misery it can cause someone. I can't imagine how horrible it could be to live with a desire that you yourself most likely find morally repulsive, and one you can't tell anyone even in confidence because it's too risky.

Even though we're not all experts and it's probably still being understood even now, it seems pretty reasonable that it's not something someone can turn off. When you have a sexual urge or tendency, you can try and repress it but you can't just make it go away.

In my understanding, being a paedophile is in addition to any other more "normal" urges. It doesn't necessarily mean you're only attracted to pre-pubscents. (I find defining in terms of legal implications is pretty dumb, personally, since it's a psychological condition.)

This one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Missing_(TV_series)

That's it, yes It's well worth watching anyway because it's awesome.

(October 25, 2016 at 6:58 am)robvalue Wrote: I'm glad that the discussion has mostly been non-hysterical. It's such a taboo subject that just talking about it is often a problem. That's the first thing that needs to change in my opinion.

If anyone gets the chance to see "The Missing" (series 1), it is a British drama which happens to touch on these issues. It is one of the few shows I've ever seen that shows any paedophile in a somewhat sympathetic light. I think it gives a good portrayal of the misery it can cause someone. I can't imagine how horrible it could be to live with a desire that you yourself most likely find morally repulsive, and one you can't tell anyone even in confidence because it's too risky.

Even though we're not all experts and it's probably still being understood even now, it seems pretty reasonable that it's not something someone can turn off. When you have a sexual urge or tendency, you can try and repress it but you can't just make it go away.

In my understanding, being a paedophile is in addition to any other more "normal" urges. It doesn't necessarily mean you're only attracted to pre-pubscents. (I find defining in terms of legal implications is pretty dumb, personally, since it's a psychological condition.)

But for those that aren't only attracted to prebuscescent kids, but also to adults, I can't see why it would even constitute a problem. They could just watch normal porn and have sex with adults. For men, especially, doesn't much matter where they get their gratification from as long as they do. So it seems to me that the real problem is with those pedophiles that are only attracted to children and to such a degree that they can't help themselves. They should either do something medical to lose their sexual appetite or seek serious psychiatric help if they have any sense of morality.

That thought did occur to me myself. It must be harder to control when the attraction is exclusive.

(October 24, 2016 at 11:01 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:

(October 24, 2016 at 10:08 am)Losty Wrote: Seriously, I had a woman on Facebook just the other day tell me how cute this type of behavior is and how it's only seen as bad by people with perverted minds. A mother...she told me that it's perfectly normal for men to play around with girls like this...Blech. It's fucking disgusting. I would probably be arrested for my response if someone did that to my daughter.

That's fucking terrifying. Shudders

It's a fairly common attitude and that behavior used to be a very common way to treat females on game shows. It's creepy to us but it used to be socially acceptable.

Pedophilia like drug abuse are two a real world examples of demonic possession.

Meaning there are similar attributes, thinking patterns and general patterns of behavior that follow the afflicted/possessed. So how does this differ from a mental illness? All are susceptible if they simply let the demon in. It is not a sickness meaning there is not a virus or bacteria altering physical health that one can just pick up. Like with the drug demon you have to invite the monster in, and over time you adopt his attributes and his character traits. That is what I mean by possession. What makes you, is controlled or is over come by a greater power/demonic influence. And all who have been possessed now share similar behaviors and traits. As if there is one master mind and the possessed become puppets. As people become more and more consumed by the demon they loose who they are, and all eventually assume the demon's identity instead of their own.

Your belief in demons or not, isn't what i am discussion. It is the centralized/common behavior and works that the afflicted are subject to despite who they maybe apart from their use of drugs or pedophilic behavior. It is a common core behavior that all seem to ascribe to. As if the individuals merge with and become apart of a greater evil being.

Oh jesus fucking christ . . . .

(October 25, 2016 at 10:53 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Oh jesus fucking christ . . . .

Yep...

(October 25, 2016 at 10:46 am)Drich Wrote: Pedophilia like drug abuse are two a real world examples of demonic possession.

Meaning there are similar attributes, thinking patterns and general patterns of behavior that follow the afflicted/possessed. So how does this differ from a mental illness? All are susceptible if they simply let the demon in. It is not a sickness meaning there is not a virus or bacteria altering physical health that one can just pick up. Like with the drug demon you have to invite the monster in, and over time you adopt his attributes and his character traits. That is what I mean by possession. What makes you, is controlled or is over come by a greater power/demonic influence. And all who have been possessed now share similar behaviors and traits. As if there is one master mind and the possessed become puppets. As people become more and more consumed by the demon they loose who they are, and all eventually assume the demon's identity instead of their own.

Your belief in demons or not, isn't what i am discussion. It is the centralized/common behavior and works that the afflicted are subject to despite who they maybe apart from their use of drugs or pedophilic behavior. It is a common core behavior that all seem to ascribe to. As if the individuals merge with and become apart of a greater evil being.

Dont know if troll or serious.

Anyone else feel like they just dropped 45-65 IQ points? Dammit Drich, I NEEDED the ability to write.