(October 27, 2016 at 12:51 pm)Whateverist Wrote:

(October 27, 2016 at 12:13 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: You have time to go through them with me in detail in PM, but don't have time to repeat yourself in public? How about you just give me an example of the premise you are most confident is true? If you can show me one that bears scrutiny, I'll accommodate your odd request to go to PM where no one but us and the moderators can see our conversation.

Those really are exceedingly rare around here.  Please do share those publicly.  We could all use the light.

you aint interested in valid conclusions based on observations unless they match yours.
And you can't stand on your own without a group to back you up.  Its easier just to "lack belief in anything" than it is to think on your own.

Dear Mathilda, thanks a lot for being so nice, I have not met someone like you here.
 
Now, if I may, we are talking about the it, what about the it is a concept, you know where I am going now.
 
This is the concept I am going into:
 
God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the uninverse and man and everything with a beginning.


How do we prove that there is an entity in objective reality of existence corresponding to the concept?
 
I hope you will continue with me, because I am very keen to exchange thoughts with atheists, and you are so far the best nice atheist here.

 
ANNEX
 
 Mariosep

Dear colleagues here, I fear that this thread could be locked up when the posts here are getting into irrelevancies and flippancies.

So, as Asmodee has not yet reported here, I will pursue my purpose here which is to get your comments on my proof for the existence of God.


May I request that we all take up with an academic mood by which if we were in an academic environment we would take care to think as to deliver our thoughts without showing signs of irrelevancies and flippancies - that is a most enticing temptation afforded by the anonymity of the internet.


So, may I request that we go into the work to think up what it is to prove that something exists in objective reality of existence outside of concepts in our mind, and independent of our mind?

First, for myself, even to prove the existence of the nose in our face is difficult already, though everyone with a nose, that includes everyone here I dare presume, knows for a certainty that the nose exists in our face; still to think on how to prove it with concepts and words and statements made up of words and redact that all in clear concise and precise language, that is not a simple and quick act.

Anyway, will you concur with me that in the case of things like the nose in our face, the best and most reliable proof consists in you and me touching each one our respective nose and then the nose of everyone else?

At this point there will always be someone who insists that he is not sure he exists in objective reality of existence, much less his nose if any at all, how do we dare with him?
 
Mathilda
MariosepMathilda says:

That is very good. But pray, what is the it you are not capable of measuring or demonstrating that it exists, does it have a name?

The it being anything that can't be measured. Whether it is God, space unicorns, a soul, ghosts or non-corporeal hyper-dimensional waffle makers.

If it has no discernible effect on reality then you can't prove that it exists.
 

Oh fuck, the font size is growing. Kill it before it gets worse!

It is now in my location as I write this message, 04:05 a.m. and Mathilda has not yet replied to my post above.

Dear atheists here, Asmodee also has not replied to my post addressed to him.

Dear atheist colleagues here, you can take the initiative to react to my post addressed to Mathilda, while she has not yet replied to it.

RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
46 minutes ago
Dear Mathilda, thanks a lot for being so nice, I have not met someone like you here.

Now, if I may, we are talking about the it, what about the it is a concept, you know where I am going now.

This is the concept I am going into:

God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the uninverse and man and everything with a beginning.


How do we prove that there is an entity in objective reality of existence corresponding to the concept?

I hope you will continue with me, because I am very keen to exchange thoughts with atheists, and you are so far the best nice atheist here.

(October 27, 2016 at 4:12 pm)Mariosep Wrote: It is now in my location as I write this message, 04:05 a.m. and Mathilda has not yet replied to my post above.

Dear atheists here, Asmodee also has not replied to my post addressed to him.

Dear atheist colleagues here, you can take the initiative to react to my post addressed to Mathilda, while she has not yet replied to it.

RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
46 minutes ago
Dear Mathilda, thanks a lot for being so nice, I have not met someone like you here.

Now, if I may, we are talking about the it, what about the it is a concept, you know where I am going now.

This is the concept I am going into:

God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the uninverse and man and everything with a beginning.


How do we prove that there is an entity in objective reality of existence corresponding to the concept?

I hope you will continue with me, because I am very keen to exchange thoughts with atheists, and you are so far the best nice atheist here.

I have replied.  If you don't want to talk to me, I'm actually okay with that.  But don't pretend I'm the one who walked away.

Mariosepsis, post 202, waiting. 

http://atheistforums.org/thread-45866-page-21.html

This guy still here?

Thanks dear atheist colleagues for your presence and contribution to my thread.

Here is my standing invitation to you all, reproduced from my earlier posting just recently:

Dear atheist colleagues here, you can take the initiative to react to my post addressed to Mathilda, while she has not yet replied to it.

RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
46 minutes ago

Dear Mathilda, thanks a lot for being so nice, I have not met someone like you here.

Now, if I may, we are talking about the it, what about the it is a concept, you know where I am going now.

This is the concept I am going into:

God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


How do we prove that there is an entity in objective reality of existence corresponding to the concept?

Quote:Here is my standing invitation to you all, reproduced from my earlier posting just recently:

Here is my standing reply to all jesus freaks:

GO BLOW JESUS OUT YOUR ASS!

I'm beginning to regret Mariosepsis mother's conception.