(November 1, 2016 at 3:48 pm)Mariosep Wrote: So, without much ado with replying to your everyone's posting here, and also please, I will not invest time and labor to take up your repeated but unfounded grievances against me, for that will take me away from my purpose in this thread, which is to observe how you think as to comment on my proof for God existing.

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In other words, any refutations and couter arguments will be ignored, or dismissed, unless we validate your "proof". That's not going to happen. You will need to tell us what a god actually is before trying to prove what it can do.

(November 1, 2016 at 3:48 pm)Mariosep Wrote: If only you also give an example of what and how you prove something to exist in objective reality outside of our mind and the concepts we have in our mind, then I submit you will see the truth, the fact, the logic, and how it my proof has support in the history of ideas with mankind.

That has already been outlined for you. Several times, in fact. You just cannot meet the basic requirements to show that your god exists in objective reality.

(November 1, 2016 at 5:40 pm)Mariosep Wrote: That is your trouble, dear atheist colleagues here, you keep on complaining that I am not refuting your objections, but I keep on requesting you to present an example of your proving with a write-up step by step, of something to exist in objective reality.

Then you should have opened another thread with that subject.

But what you did was open a thread with a flawed syllogism that does not prove what you are claiming it proves.

We all pointed that out.

But instead of responding to our points, you continue to ignore them.

Quote:The difference between you and me in regard to proof of something to exist, is that I have presented a proof of something to exist, namely, God; but you nothing at all.

No, you provided a flawed argument. You did not offer a proof.

Quote:Anyway, I will wait for your example of a write-up of proof that something exists in objective reality.

Like this way, below, but of course you need not follow my example faithfully, just keep to the core configuration.

Are you seriously trying to equate your 'proof' for a god, with the methods we use to prove things, like atoms, actually exist in reality?!

Quote:What about, which is what I also want to invite you, since several posts from yours truly in recent time, dear atheist colleagues here, namely: for us to work together as to concur on what is causation.

Causation, or causality, is the capacity of one variable to influence another. The first variable may bring the second into existence or may cause the incidence of the second variable to fluctuate.

Causation requires time and space. How did your god cause something to come into existence without time and space?

Did the rest of you know that we are in a popularity contest? And you didn't tell me!

Well that's it. I'm only hanging with the cheer leaders and jocks from now on.

(November 1, 2016 at 5:40 pm)Mariosep Wrote: The difference between you and me in regard to proof of something to exist, is that I have presented a proof of something to exist, namely, God; but you nothing at all.

That is clearly a lie, as I posted a video of an atom.

Thank you for illustrating to us all that your religion has made you into a liar.  May you lose your faith and never regain it.

And here I had such high hopes for the mysteries of life, the universe, and everything to be revealed on page 42...

(November 1, 2016 at 3:48 pm)Mariosep Wrote: If only you also give an example of what and how you prove something to exist in objective reality outside of our mind and the concepts we have in our mind, then I submit you will see the truth, the fact, the logic, and how it my proof has support in the history of ideas with mankind.

ANSWERED MANY TIMES ALREADY.

Read the fucking responses.

Step 1: Define your terms. e.g. A nose is in situated in the middle of a face, sticks out from it, and air travels through it to the lungs. It is used for smelling.
Step 2: Create a falsifiable hypothesis. e.g. Noses exist and are found on normal human faces.
Step 3: Test hypothesis and collect evidence. e.g. Look at faces and see how many have a nose according to the definition in step 1.
Step 4: Write up the definition, experiments and results as a paper, get it peer reviewed and published.
Step 5: Other scientists will then try to reproduce your results.

The nose is the scenter of the face.

Sorry. Carry on.

Right you. You're barred Stimbo. We don't want any of those so-called puns around a classy establishment like this. Get your coat son and sling yer hook!

... Not again.