(November 2, 2016 at 9:53 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 9:46 am)goombah111 Wrote: wow...just...wow...amazing. and you make fun of creationists!?

I make fun of idiots. And that's the company you happen to have found yourself in.

(November 2, 2016 at 9:46 am)goombah111 Wrote: thats hypocritical dont you think? to dismiss evidence and to believe preconceived ideas blindly?

You have presented no evidence. Only speculation and conjecture. Just like all the naive nut-jobs.  And sane people don't have to argue against nut-jobs, who keep presenting the same horsesh*t, already debunked many times over. Life is too short and there are waaaaay too many idiots on the internet.

i presented the video. i presented the document. i have not found anything to debunk the molten steel at WTC7. not one good argument to support a cause for melted iron. 

shouldnt take long to type out a quick reason. as its been "debunked many times over." what melted the steel? (not weakened, liquified) i provided proof of molten steel. now, give me a reason as to how it got there.

(November 2, 2016 at 9:57 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Stop strawmanning me, how the fuck would you know who I've debated?

Fact is, I used to be a 9/11 conspiracist, but when I stopped smoking weed and actually started listening to those who were supposed to be covering shit up it became fairly obvious that it's impossible for the conspiracy to be true.

The technical arguments aside, there is no way that this could have been kept secret for this long....... do you know what people are actually like?

Debating a 9/11 conspiracist IS like debating a creationist.

By the by, I love this question in response...and I want you to actually think about it:

If the 9/11 conspiracy were true and the attacks were used as a ploy for the allies to go into Iraq.....why in the name of holy fuck didn't they just plant some WMD's in Iraq?

Think on that.

Edit to add:  Don't you fucking dare lecture me on people dying and doing your bit for your country, for a start, I'm British, but more importantly, I served in Afghanistan.  Keep you faux patriotic outrage to your fucking self.

fighting for the wrong side. i still respect the troops for doing what they think is right. very commendable. but you have to know who you can trust first. nazi soldiers were brave too.

you cant use a question of why not as an argument. i get that a lot from anti's. you can only deal with the evidence you have, hypotheticals are for fun and speculation, not actual answers. and always saying "do you know how impossible that is?" use evidence, not what if's.

there are hundreds of families who believe as i do. and many who dont. if you want to respect those affected by this tragedy then stop calling them nutjobs.

i would love to do them a service by having this discussion with a soldier. lmk if you decide to change your mind.

(November 2, 2016 at 10:16 am)goombah111 Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 9:53 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: I make fun of idiots. And that's the company you happen to have found yourself in.


You have presented no evidence. Only speculation and conjecture. Just like all the naive nut-jobs.  And sane people don't have to argue against nut-jobs, who keep presenting the same horsesh*t, already debunked many times over. Life is too short and there are waaaaay too many idiots on the internet.

i presented the video. i presented the document. i have not found anything to debunk the molten steel at WTC7. not one good argument to support a cause for melted iron. 

shouldnt take long to type out a quick reason. as its been "debunked many times over." what melted the steel? (not weakened, liquified) i provided proof of molten steel. now, give me a reason as to how it got there.

(November 2, 2016 at 9:57 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Stop strawmanning me, how the fuck would you know who I've debated?

Fact is, I used to be a 9/11 conspiracist, but when I stopped smoking weed and actually started listening to those who were supposed to be covering shit up it became fairly obvious that it's impossible for the conspiracy to be true.

The technical arguments aside, there is no way that this could have been kept secret for this long....... do you know what people are actually like?

Debating a 9/11 conspiracist IS like debating a creationist.

By the by, I love this question in response...and I want you to actually think about it:

If the 9/11 conspiracy were true and the attacks were used as a ploy for the allies to go into Iraq.....why in the name of holy fuck didn't they just plant some WMD's in Iraq?

Think on that.

Edit to add:  Don't you fucking dare lecture me on people dying and doing your bit for your country, for a start, I'm British, but more importantly, I served in Afghanistan.  Keep you faux patriotic outrage to your fucking self.

fighting for the wrong side. i still respect the troops for doing what they think is right. very commendable. but you have to know who you can trust first. nazi soldiers were brave too.

you cant use a question of why not as an argument. i get that a lot from anti's. you can only deal with the evidence you have, hypotheticals are for fun and speculation, not actual answers. and always saying "do you know how impossible that is?" use evidence, not what if's.

there are hundreds of families who believe as i do. and many who dont. if you want to respect those affected by this tragedy then stop calling them nutjobs.

i would love to do them a service by having this discussion with a soldier. lmk if you decide to change your mind.

Look pal, I didn't fight for the wrong side, you know fuck all about it.  The reasons for us being there I questioned and still do, but wrong side?  If you'd ever seen what the Taliban do to those who oppose them, you'd soon change your fucking tune.

But you wouldn't, because you're the type of dipshit who knows how to be brave on a keyboard, who probably still lives at home with his Mommy.

Wrong side........ you believe that so strongly, go and fucking live there, you'd last 5 minutes.

They are fucking nutjobs, each one.  This is now a multi-million dollar industry and fucktards like you have been sucked into it.  The fact that this now industry is preying on the families and using their grief to exploit them makes them, not only nutjobs, but cunts of the highest order.

Edit to add: The wonderful irony here: You ask for evidence, but that video you posted admits that they have no evidence. none. Not one bit, they're not allowed access to it.

All conjecture, all hypothesis...and you're lapping it up.

(November 2, 2016 at 10:16 am)goombah111 Wrote: i presented the video. i presented the document. i have not found anything to debunk the molten steel at WTC7. not one good argument to support a cause for melted iron. 

shouldnt take long to type out a quick reason. as its been "debunked many times over." what melted the steel? (not weakened, liquified) i provided proof of molten steel. now, give me a reason as to how it got there.

You have no actual evidence of molten steel at WTC7.

Here, read this, wacko. Too much to paste here.

http://911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html

And in any case - that one potential anomaly in no way justifies a belief in an omnipotent, invisible super-conspiracy. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence and all that. You don't even have the ordinary kind.

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(November 2, 2016 at 10:24 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 10:16 am)goombah111 Wrote: i 

Lo

you can say 1, 2, maybe even 50 witnesses were mistaken. but when the numbers get this high, its crazier to NOT believe them.

(November 2, 2016 at 10:29 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 10:16 am)goombah111 Wrote: i 

Youd.

presented. before, and now.

https://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf

(November 2, 2016 at 9:57 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Fact is, I used to be a 9/11 conspiracist

does that mean you are/were a nutjob? no. 

why does it make others nutjobs just because they have not yet changed their minds like you have?

edit:double post

(November 2, 2016 at 11:05 am)goombah111 Wrote:

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presented. before, and now.

https://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf

Lol... This is cute. You should go to the media with this totally not bullsh*t evidence, then. Surely - if it checks out and isn't just some wack-job anomaly-hunting and making up sciency-sounding crap, then this will make a huge story. Or perhaps political opponents of US, like Russia, or China would love to make the evidence official? I mean - they obviously don't have google to find all this "treasure" by themselves. You, sir, could stand to make quite a lot of money with this ground-breaking information...

Look - I don't care what demented nonsense you believe. I have no business teaching gullible morons how reality works. Obviously this is something, that gives you some illusion of knowledge and sense of self-worth, which is sad, but that's your problem. You're emotionally invested in this exciting narrative, which conforms to your comic-book education. I'm quite happy merely making fun of the likes of you - it's not my job to disabuse you of your delusions.

You're a dipsh*t. Have a fine day.

(November 2, 2016 at 11:05 am)goombah111 Wrote:

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(November 2, 2016 at 10:24 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Lo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH1Xdcssw4A

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you can say 1, 2, maybe even 50 witnesses were mistaken. but when the numbers get this high, its crazier to NOT believe them.

(November 2, 2016 at 10:29 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Youd.

presented. before, and now.

https://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf

(November 2, 2016 at 9:57 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Fact is, I used to be a 9/11 conspiracist

does that mean you are/were a nutjob? no. 

why does it make others nutjobs just because they have not yet changed their minds like you have?

Of course it made me a nut job, I was off me head smoking an eighth a day.

(November 2, 2016 at 12:15 pm)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Of course it made me a nut job, I was off me head everyday smoking an eighth a day.

LOL... Light-weight...

(November 2, 2016 at 12:18 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 12:15 pm)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Of course it made me a nut job, I was off me head everyday smoking an eighth a day.

LOL... Light-weight...

(November 2, 2016 at 12:15 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(November 2, 2016 at 11:05 am)goombah111 Wrote:

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presented. before, and now.

https://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_apc.pdf

Lol... This is cute. You should go to the media with this totally not bullsh*t evidence, then. Surely - if it checks out and isn't just some wack-job anomaly-hunting and making up sciency-sounding crap, then this will make a huge story. Or perhaps political opponents of US, like Russia, or China would love to make the evidence official? I mean - they obviously don't have google to find all this "treasure" by themselves. You, sir, could stand to make quite a lot of money with this ground-breaking information...  

Look - I don't care what demented nonsense you believe. I have no business teaching gullible morons how reality works. Obviously this is something, that gives you some illusion of knowledge and self-worth, which is sad, but that's your problem. You're emotionally invested in this exciting narrative, which conforms to your comic-book education. I'm quite happy making fun of the likes of you - it's not my job to disabuse you of your delusions.

You're a dipsh*t. Have a fine day.

FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, is very reputable in my opinion.

seems you are a much bigger hypocrite than i gave you credit for.

just cause you dont put your ignorant blind faith in a god doesnt mean you dont still have it.

your blind faith is in the people you choose to agree with.

have you ever came up with any of your own conclusions? 
or do you just steal the opinions of others?

at least SoF**kingHigh has his own original thoughts and ideas. 
at least theres something to respect.

(November 2, 2016 at 12:15 pm)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Of course it made me a nut job, I was off me head smoking an eighth a day.

thats a lot of money.

neither of you have backed your claims.
and responded without analyzing.

just like all Falsers do when they have no case.

its alright, should have never started this. nothing would have changed your mind.

i could show you a video of bush planting the bombs and saying "im blowing up the world trade"

you would just say "fake and gay" and continue circlejerking until your hands fell off.