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Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
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 Quote: once a person receives saving grace their whole life changes. They begin to do their best to follow the teachings of Christ and living an obedient life. Your assuming everyone that 'receives grace' makes a a wholehearted attempt to learn much less follow the teachings.  (June 8, 2011 at 3:30 am)eric209 Wrote:Quote: once a person receives saving grace their whole life changes. They begin to do their best to follow the teachings of Christ and living an obedient life. Well I don't really think I am just assuming that, scripture teaches that the fruit of the spirit are a necessary result of saving grace. (June 8, 2011 at 6:08 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(June 8, 2011 at 3:30 am)eric209 Wrote:Quote: once a person receives saving grace their whole life changes. They begin to do their best to follow the teachings of Christ and living an obedient life. Your are assuming it. 
He may be assuming that the Bible is accurate, but it's fairly clear that it states that fruit will follow righteousness or it's not righteous.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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well unlike alot of the claims in the bible this is something which can currently be studied and its plain as day not going to be true
OK so let's get this straight. You're claiming that the Bible doesn't say that the fruit of the spirit are a necessary result of saving grace? Or is it something else you are trying to "currently study" and finding "is plain as day not going to be true"?
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari (June 9, 2011 at 1:23 am)tackattack Wrote: OK so let's get this straight. You're claiming that the Bible doesn't say that the fruit of the spirit are a necessary result of saving grace? Or is it something else you are trying to "currently study" and finding "is plain as day not going to be true"? Yeah I am lost as well..... 
I dont understand the connection you all are making either. agreed to misunderstand i guess.
Here I'll make it simple answer:
1-Are you stating that the Bible doesn't say that the fruit of the spirit are a necessary result of saving grace?
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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