(November 9, 2016 at 5:03 pm)Cecelia Wrote: I'm physically sick over the fact Donald Trump won the election.  I couldn't even go to work today.  I'm not sure how I'd handle running into a Trump supporter right now.  I'm concerned about my job--Donald Trump wants to cut the Department of Education, and wants to give vouchers to everyone.  If he succeeds, I could lose my job.  I refuse to work at a private school.  Worried about my kids too.   They don't get how anyone could support such a hateful man.  

I guess the one positive out of all of this is... yeah, I'm not able to think of any.  Maybe we won't have to hear about any more of those damned emails or wikileaks now.

ACA made my job go away. My employer pulled out of the health care market because of instability, potential non profitability. Appears they may have made a correct decision. 

Sorry, just playing devils advocate. Not necessarily a Trump supporter. I couldn't/didn't vote for him. 

I came through OK. I hope you will also.

This will only sting for four to eight years. It's just a little prick, after all.

(November 9, 2016 at 2:18 pm)Divinity Wrote: Elizabeth Warren 2020.

Failing that... Kanye West 2020.

You'll still have some of the worst healthcare and education in the first world, but at least you'll have really, really, really awful music.

(November 9, 2016 at 6:02 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: ACA made my job go away. My employer pulled out of the health care market because of instability, potential non profitability. Appears they may have made a correct decision. 

Sorry, just playing devils advocate. Not necessarily a Trump supporter. I couldn't/didn't vote for him. 

I came through OK. I hope you will also.

My problem is that I have a masters in teaching.  It's the only thing I can do--and the only thing I want to do.  And I really don't want to teach at a private school.  I don't want to be beholden to the almighty dollar when it comes to educating kids.  It goes against all my principles.   I'm also concerned about my kids--because if public schools go under, I don't want to have to choose between private schools to send my kids to because there's too high of a chance i choose the wrong one.  Especially looking at For-profit universities like University of Phoenix and Trump
University.

My passion for Public Education is what drove me to become a teacher in the first place.  So my concern for public education goes beyond even just my job and my kids.

I'm sorry that you lost your job, though.  I know some people lost their jobs because of the ACA and employers cut their hours to the point where they couldn't live off of what they were making.  My husband lost his job--but because of new technology that put his company out of business.  I'm glad you came through okay.

(November 9, 2016 at 1:52 pm)Whateverist Wrote: And I agree, it's none of our affair now.

I dont agree.

It's everyones affair. In the case of smaller countries a local and contained affair, in the case of the USA a global affair. Everyone will be afflicted and the winners will be the minority. In fact, saying it's none oof our affair now is one of the sentiments I resent the most. It's on the lines of sitting on one's backside while others are carrying the load. If one is so privileged to sit something like that out. Which I doubt very much, unless the one making that statement is filthy rich and pretty much their own island.

I have to say, the quote in your OP only fills me with resentment of the one making it. It's one of the stupidest comments I had the misfortune to read and probably the major reason why figures like that assclown can rise to power.

(November 9, 2016 at 7:23 pm)Cecelia Wrote:

(November 9, 2016 at 6:02 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: ACA made my job go away. My employer pulled out of the health care market because of instability, potential non profitability. Appears they may have made a correct decision. 

Sorry, just playing devils advocate. Not necessarily a Trump supporter. I couldn't/didn't vote for him. 

I came through OK. I hope you will also.

My problem is that I have a masters in teaching.  It's the only thing I can do--and the only thing I want to do.  And I really don't want to teach at a private school.  I don't want to be beholden to the almighty dollar when it comes to educating kids.  It goes against all my principles.   I'm also concerned about my kids--because if public schools go under, I don't want to have to choose between private schools to send my kids to because there's too high of a chance i choose the wrong one.  Especially looking at For-profit universities like University of Phoenix and Trump
University.

My passion for Public Education is what drove me to become a teacher in the first place.  So my concern for public education goes beyond even just my job and my kids.

I'm sorry that you lost your job, though.  I know some people lost their jobs because of the ACA and employers cut their hours to the point where they couldn't live off of what they were making.  My husband lost his job--but because of new technology that put his company out of business.  I'm glad you came through okay.

Do you have to teach kids? Corporate America loves teachers and good/qualified ones are few.

(November 9, 2016 at 1:52 pm)Whateverist Wrote: What can you tell me to make it feel better?

Try some calamine lotion?

Also... I'm here. That's got to rank pretty high on the good-news-o-meter.

(November 9, 2016 at 7:31 pm)abaris Wrote:

(November 9, 2016 at 1:52 pm)Whateverist Wrote: And I agree, it's none of our affair now.

I dont agree.

It's everyones affair. In the case of smaller countries a local and contained affair, in the case of the USA a global affair. Everyone will be afflicted and the winners will be the minority. In fact, saying it's none oof our affair now is one of the sentiments I resent the most. It's on the lines of sitting on one's backside while others are carrying the load. If one is so privileged to sit something like that out. Which I doubt very much, unless the one making that statement is filthy rich and pretty much their own island.

I have to say, the quote in your OP only fills me with resentment of the one making it. It's one of the stupidest comments I had the misfortune to read and probably the major reason why figures like that assclown can rise to power.

Sorry to add to your unhappiness over this botched election.  What I meant is that I will find my satisfaction in the little things every day the way I always do. I am far from wealthy but we are not desperate.  Doesn't mean I won't be involved at all but there will be considerably less to do for a while and for that I am grateful.  Politics is not my favorite thing in life and I refuse to let it rob me of those things which do make life rich.  It is important but it is an odious task; I take seriously but refuse to dwell on more than I can help it.  Perhaps on that we will just have to disagree.

(November 9, 2016 at 7:48 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Doesn't mean I won't be involved at all but there will be considerably less to do for a while and for that I am grateful.  Politics is not my favorite thing in life and I refuse to let it rob me of those things which do make life rich.  It is important but it is an odious task I take seriously but refuse to dwell on more than I can help it.  Perhaps on that we will just have to disagree.

I didn't mean you. I meant the one making the statement. Calling himself an elitist certainly didn't help. So, probably better if he retires to his ivory tower and spares us from getting a second helping. Alternatively he could join a grassroot movement and actually try to move humanity forward.

(November 9, 2016 at 5:03 pm)Cecelia Wrote: I'm physically sick over the fact Donald Trump won the election.  I couldn't even go to work today.  I'm not sure how I'd handle running into a Trump supporter right now.  I'm concerned about my job--Donald Trump wants to cut the Department of Education, and wants to give vouchers to everyone.  If he succeeds, I could lose my job.  I refuse to work at a private school.  Worried about my kids too.   They don't get how anyone could support such a hateful man.  

I guess the one positive out of all of this is... yeah, I'm not able to think of any.  Maybe we won't have to hear about any more of those damned emails or wikileaks now.

It's no surprise your reaction is similar to Aroura you're both very lovely people.

It is indeed very sickening that Donald Trump is president.