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So, At The End Of The Day,
November 11, 2016 at 8:47 pm
Gary Johnson got 3% of the vote or 4.1 million and Jill Stein got 1% or 1.2 million.
In 4 years I have no doubt that the myth of viable 3d parties will be resurrected.....
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RE: So, At The End Of The Day,
November 11, 2016 at 8:49 pm
So long as everyone continues to buy into the two-party narrative, you're right, it won't change.
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RE: So, At The End Of The Day,
November 11, 2016 at 9:02 pm
(November 11, 2016 at 8:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: In 4 years I have no doubt that the myth of viable 3d parties will be resurrected.....
You say that as if that was a negative. Given your political system it probably is, but that rather shines a light on your political system than third parties. The problem lies in not giving third parties a voice, not in third parties existing. Just think about it. For more than 200 years two political parties are dividing the country amongst them. But at the same time, people get more and more diverse.
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RE: So, At The End Of The Day,
November 11, 2016 at 9:02 pm
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2016 at 9:02 pm by Tonus.)
Gary Johnson was a 'viable third party option' until they gave him enough of a spotlight to let him show everyone what a complete loon he is.
Come to think of it, Jill Stein was the same except for the part where she was never considered a viable third party option.
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RE: So, At The End Of The Day,
November 11, 2016 at 9:25 pm
(November 11, 2016 at 8:49 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: So long as everyone continues to buy into the two-party narrative, you're right, it won't change.
Show me in two years where the Libertards and the Greens are running candidates for senate, house and statewide races. They are like fat bears who hibernate for 3 years and then wake up, run around a bit and then go back to sleep.
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RE: So, At The End Of The Day,
November 11, 2016 at 9:28 pm
(November 11, 2016 at 9:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (November 11, 2016 at 8:49 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: So long as everyone continues to buy into the two-party narrative, you're right, it won't change.
Show me in two years where the Libertards and the Greens are running candidates for senate, house and statewide races. They are like fat bears who hibernate for 3 years and then wake up, run around a bit and then go back to sleep.
I think I actually agree with you on this point. While I would love for a third party candidate to be taken seriously, it won't happen any time soon. They need to gain a larger presence in congress and other small offices first. That really should be their focus, and I don't see much of that happening. Once they do that, I would love to jump on one of their party buses.
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RE: So, At The End Of The Day,
November 11, 2016 at 9:36 pm
That takes work.
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RE: So, At The End Of The Day,
November 11, 2016 at 9:37 pm
Third parties have no chance, so I won't vote for them, so third parties have no chance...
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RE: So, At The End Of The Day,
November 11, 2016 at 9:51 pm
(November 11, 2016 at 9:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (November 11, 2016 at 8:49 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: So long as everyone continues to buy into the two-party narrative, you're right, it won't change.
Show me in two years where the Libertards and the Greens are running candidates for senate, house and statewide races. They are like fat bears who hibernate for 3 years and then wake up, run around a bit and then go back to sleep.
Stripped of invective, this is a fair point.
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RE: So, At The End Of The Day,
November 11, 2016 at 9:53 pm
(November 11, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Third parties have no chance, so I won't vote for them, so third parties have no chance...
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