You're really feeling your wheaties of late, aren't you SAF?  Wonder why that might be?  

No, no I don't.  No one does.  

Quote:Minorities still receive oppression?
How so? The media? The gov't?

OFC. You ask as though it would be a bad thing if they were, though?

Quote:The media doesn't care to put the deaths of white men out but makes a fuss over the deaths of a few black people.

Tragic really. But I wonder why they do this?
To maybe get more media coverage? Attention?

I know, I know, making a fuss when they should know their place....just because a few of them are getting shot by cops.  That's eating up all the airtime that ought to be used to inform us that our white neighbor Bill's heart finally chocked on all that cholesterol.  Poor Bill, and fuck them.  Amiright or amiright?

(November 13, 2016 at 12:42 am)Bob Kelso Wrote:

(November 12, 2016 at 5:49 pm)Jesster Wrote: I'm actually fine with calling myself an egalitarian. It also describes me just fine. I'm just sick of people shitting all over the feminist label just because they don't like it. It's all the same fight in the end.

I know this has been a few pages back but it stuck out to me. 

Personally I don't have any issue with people calling themselves whatever they like, though you have to admit it's no small wonder why so many people shit on the feminist label these days. You know, what with all the non-issue virtue signaling, name calling, racist, well-poisoners you have constantly in the limelight.

Honestly, I just see that as people picking out the worst examples and pointing fingers at the larger group because of it. It's the same thing that happens with partisan politics. The finger pointing is so overdone that I end up just rolling my eyes at it eventually. It gets nothing done.

Being transgender I've had the chance to play both the male and female social roles, and I can tell you for a fact, male privilege exists. I can tell you for a fact, plenty of guys are biased against women. Even some pretty liberal guys. So many times I've participated in conversations about that touch on supposedly "male" subjects like science and philosophy where the guys talk to each other and ignore or are hyper-critical of anything women say on the subject. You don't know how discouraging that can be.

And that's just one example of sexism. People have mentioned plenty of others in this thread. I really wish more guys could see how real sexism is. Guess that makes me appreciate the guys who do so much more.

(November 13, 2016 at 12:10 am)ScienceAf Wrote:

(November 12, 2016 at 9:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: She didn't "let" anyone do anything, lol.  She was mandated to represent him as his defense attorney.  Do you not have even a basic understanding of how a court of law works?

And trump wasn't joking; he was bragging.. About committing sexual assault.  

You're right; that's fucking hilarious!  [emoji849]

hilary bragged about letting this man free. Bragged about letting a pedophile free. Which she did do. Are you gonna say she joked about that?

And Trump didn't (at least any confirmed reports) sexually assault anyone.

And dude, grow sense of humor. I'm sure suicide jokes deeply hurt people too.

I have a great sense of humor. I laugh at a good joke about anything, regardless of the subject.

She didn't brag about anything. Try actually listening to the original source before you talk about things. Incase you didn't know, she actually requested to be taken OFF the case because she was so horrified by the prospect of defending a suspected child rapist.

Trump admitted he does those things to women. What more confirmation should you need?

(November 13, 2016 at 7:07 am)Gemini Wrote: Being transgender I've had the chance to play both the male and female social roles, and I can tell you for a fact, male privilege exists. I can tell you for a fact, plenty of guys are biased against women. Even some pretty liberal guys. So many times I've participated in conversations about that touch on supposedly "male" subjects like science and philosophy where the guys talk to each other and ignore or are hyper-critical of anything women say on the subject. You don't know how discouraging that can be.

And that's just one example of sexism. People have mentioned plenty of others in this thread. I really wish more guys could see how real sexism is. Guess that makes me appreciate the guys who do so much more.

What is most egregious is when male privilege is defended by collaborative women.  In my wife's first marriage her husband was a sculptor and painter (of little renown) who got a grant (which she had written for him) to live and work in Sweden for a year.  This was before she'd been through graduate school herself.  

She often tells of a visit they paid to another artist's house for dinner.  The other woman's husband only engaged Lia's ex in conversation but she naturally joined in too.  But the guy's wife grew more and more uncomfortable looking until she finally told Lia she had no right to speak about art.  Lia's ex can be a dick but she says one thing she appreciated was that he didn't harbor any such prejudice.

The rest of the story is Lia's ex became more and more dissatisfied with her ambition for him which manifest when she would try to enlist his participation in her efforts to write grants for him (the stupid bastard).  At one point she quit writing for him and started writing for herself.  After their year in Sweden where she first studied weaving she went to graduate school where she studied under Ed Rossbach at Cal.  She went on to have quite a successful career and would only agree to participate in workshops or short teaching stints which also made a place for him.  Then one time he hit on (meaning actually screwed) one of her students and eventually they split.  Something about the mindset of guys just a little bit older than myself -Trump for example- really do/did make them feel obliged to actually bed as many women as they could - married or not.  Yuck.

This thread gave me cancer.

I am male. I am a feminist and my favorite feminist writer is Camile Paglia. For some reason many feminists don't like her.

(November 13, 2016 at 1:32 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(November 12, 2016 at 6:00 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: I am a man?

Do blacks and women not have rights.
Are blacks slaves?
Are women citizens?

Evacuated-middle much?

Are they what I said?
Do they not have rights?

(November 13, 2016 at 9:54 am)Mermaid Wrote: This thread gave me cancer.

How so?

(November 13, 2016 at 7:07 am)Gemini Wrote: Being transgender I've had the chance to play both the male and female social roles, and I can tell you for a fact, male privilege exists. I can tell you for a fact, plenty of guys are biased against women. Even some pretty liberal guys. So many times I've participated in conversations about that touch on supposedly "male" subjects like science and philosophy where the guys talk to each other and ignore or are hyper-critical of anything women say on the subject. You don't know how discouraging that can be.

And that's just one example of sexism. People have mentioned plenty of others in this thread. I really wish more guys could see how real sexism is. Guess that makes me appreciate the guys who do so much more.

Women don't have any privileges either?
There's so many people out there who went from man to woman like Blair White who would agree that both sides have different privileges.