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Believers, put yourself in my place.
November 17, 2016 at 3:02 pm
Some of you will recoil in horror, but some of you will be able to imagine that you are looking at your religion from the outside. If you can do that I ask you to consider what your religion would look like without the assumption of divinity. For example, the Greek gods. Few, if any, people still worship the Olympian gods, so it's "safe" to discuss them and their rather naughty habits. You would, however, get a few million people seriously upset if you question Mary's virginity.
For those of you who can make the leap, please keep in mind that your gods are equivalent to the Olympians in my mind. I'm not out to destroy your belief or turn your churches into brothels (even if it would be great idea), I just don't believe your god or gods are any more special than the panoply of discarded gods that came before and after yours.
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November 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm
I like what you're doing here but you need to take this further to drive the point home. Go deeper into the rabbit hole.
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
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RE: Believers, put yourself in my place.
November 17, 2016 at 4:19 pm
(November 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm)operator Wrote: I like what you're doing here but you need to take this further to drive the point home. Go deeper into the rabbit hole.
It's just the Outsider's Test of Religion, really, presented as a personal outlook.
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RE: Believers, put yourself in my place.
November 17, 2016 at 4:43 pm
Isn't it funny how we can call the Greek gods mythology, but people get offended if you say the same thing about Christian mythology?
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Believers, put yourself in my place.
November 17, 2016 at 5:10 pm
(November 17, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Isn't it funny how we can call the Greek gods mythology, but people get offended if you say the same thing about Christian mythology?
"My god is real, your god is a myth." Exclusionary paradigm necessary for monotheism.
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November 18, 2016 at 5:48 am
I'm always amazed how quickly the religious dismiss other religions, or other woo notions that don't fit their belief patterns. They generally use fairly reasonable methods to do so, but can't/won't apply these methods to their own beliefs.
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RE: Believers, put yourself in my place.
November 18, 2016 at 7:08 am
(November 18, 2016 at 5:48 am)robvalue Wrote: I'm always amazed how quickly the religious dismiss other religions, or other woo notions that don't fit their belief patterns. They generally use fairly reasonable methods to do so, but can't/won't apply these methods to their own beliefs.
Take a large sheet of paper. Punch a dozen or so very small holes in it, in very precise locations. Put everything humanity has ever learned under the paper. The holes represent the portion of that knowledge that the fundies accept.
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November 18, 2016 at 7:36 am
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2016 at 7:38 am by purplepurpose.)
There are people who like anarchy, others like monarchy and so on. Different flavours. People bet on the one they like. I for example, don't understand Buddhism with its meditation, nirvana, "no self" mind set(no attachment), it looks f boring to me.
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RE: Believers, put yourself in my place.
November 18, 2016 at 7:59 am
(November 18, 2016 at 7:36 am)purplepurpose Wrote: There are people who like anarchy, others like monarchy and so on. Different flavours. People bet on the one they like. I for example, don't understand Buddhism with its meditation, nirvana, "no self" mind set(no attachment), it looks f boring to me.
And?
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RE: Believers, put yourself in my place.
November 18, 2016 at 8:19 am
(November 18, 2016 at 5:48 am)robvalue Wrote: I'm always amazed how quickly the religious dismiss other religions, or other woo notions that don't fit their belief patterns. They generally use fairly reasonable methods to do so, but can't/won't apply these methods to their own beliefs.
I would say much the same about atheist.
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