(November 26, 2016 at 9:43 pm)Full Circle Wrote:

(November 26, 2016 at 1:40 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: WILL YA' LL STOP!!

Answer me this: If Castro had been so evil, why after half century of trying to kill him couldn't the US find one person in Cuba who would betray him?

Yes he threw the racketeers out of Cuba, and I'm sure they didn't go voluntarily.  Do you believe all the bullcrap about spreading democracy the uS puts out? You don't think they maybe have a reason to vilify a socialist guy with the balls to say hell no we not paying no debt and to tell other third world countries they don't have to pay the west for being independent. I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that you think such a man is evil.

Cuba doesn’t really have anything that the US wants, white sandy beaches =/= oil reserves. No real need to invade or to assassinate. The only ones suffering are the 8 million Cubans that are still on the island. 

Castro is, or was, a tyrant. Here is a biography http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-w...86483.html that may change your mind. 

Excerpts:

"He also was a ruthless dictator, the Maximum Leader who reneged on his promise of free elections, executed thousands of opponents, imprisoned tens of thousands, installed a Communist regime and made his island a pawn in the Cold War. His alliance with the Soviet Union brought the world to the brink of nuclear war in 1962.”


"Roundups of dissidents continued regularly through the final years of Castro’s rule. He might ease the pressure occasionally for public-relations purposes — several hundred prisoners were released in advance of Pope John Paul II’s visit to the island in January 1998 — but inevitably resume when the spotlight moved elsewhere.


“Cuba remains a Latin American anomaly: an undemocratic government that represses nearly all forms of political dissent,” the independent group Human Rights Watch observed in 2008. “Cubans are systematically denied basic rights to free expression, association, assembly, privacy, movement, and due process of law.”

Some recent images of the “wonderful” life Cubans now lead. Photos not mine. 
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=...nref=story

You know who else is also ruthless, TRUMP. The only reason that asshole back peddles so much is that he doesn't have a dictatorship like Castro, but he has sure acted over the past 5 years like he would want one if he could create one.

Aaaand we've jumped the shark.

Take your meds.

(November 26, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You know who else is also ruthless, TRUMP. The only reason that asshole back peddles so much is that he doesn't have a dictatorship like Castro, but he has sure acted over the past 5 years like he would want one if he could create one.

(November 26, 2016 at 10:02 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Aaaand we've jumped the shark.

Take your meds.

Who, not me. I don't need any meds. Trump and his supporters do. 

Trump IS literally a selfish and ruthless opportunist. He has stiffed contractors and defrauded investors with his University scam. He has run his campaign with the same utopia populism any good despot would. The only difference between Trump and Castro is Trump doesn't have the benefit of being the head of a one party state.

(November 26, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You know who else is also ruthless, TRUMP. The only reason that asshole back peddles so much is that he doesn't have a dictatorship like Castro, but he has sure acted over the past 5 years like he would want one if he could create one.

Oh, well if we're naming horrible politicians:

Jeremy Corbyn
Nicola Sturgeon
Alex Salmond
Gerry Adams
Martin McGuinness

(November 26, 2016 at 10:07 pm)Brian37 Wrote: . 

Trump IS literally a selfish and ruthless opportunist. He has stiffed contractors and defrauded investors with his University scam. He has run his campaign with the same utopia populism any good despot would. The only difference between Trump and Castro is Trump doesn't have the benefit of being the head of a one party state.

They do have similarities. They both don't keep their deals.

Castro has actual blood on his hands. I'm grim about Trump and he will have blood on his hands, but to match Castro he will need to burn through a lot of resistance and people. He is nowhere close to thr blood.

Castro is dead. This is a thread about his death.

Aside from the president elect's boorish behavior, he is immaterial and off topic.

Keep it up and I may excise the off topic cancer into another thread for the sake of the current threads discussion and respect to the members.

(November 26, 2016 at 5:52 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(November 26, 2016 at 5:34 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Here's hoping the next asshole to go is Kim Jong-un.

That fat fuck shouldn't survive long.

He is about 32 years old now.  If CIA set about assassinating him right away, we can expect he would die in as little as 58 years.

Hey, these things take time.

(November 26, 2016 at 10:06 pm)Full Circle Wrote:

(November 26, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You know who else is also ruthless, TRUMP. The only reason that asshole back peddles so much is that he doesn't have a dictatorship like Castro, but he has sure acted over the past 5 years like he would want one if he could create one.

No moron, they are alike in attitude. BOTH are selfish narcissists and opportunists. They are not alike only in the context of the governments but both ran selling populism and both like to be feared.

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(November 26, 2016 at 10:13 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:

(November 26, 2016 at 10:07 pm)Brian37 Wrote: . 

Trump IS literally a selfish and ruthless opportunist. He has stiffed contractors and defrauded investors with his University scam. He has run his campaign with the same utopia populism any good despot would. The only difference between Trump and Castro is Trump doesn't have the benefit of being the head of a one party state.

They do have similarities. They both don't keep their deals.

Castro has actual blood on his hands. I'm grim about Trump and he will have blood on his hands, but to match Castro he will need to burn through a lot of resistance and people. He is nowhere close to thr blood.

Castro is dead. This is a thread about his death.

Aside from the president elect's boorish behavior, he is immaterial and off topic.

Keep it up and I may excise the off topic cancer into another thread for the sake of the current threads discussion and respect to the members.

It is not off topic. When you have even 50 Republican former law agents calling his rhetoric dangerous that goes way beyond "boorish" it is TOXIC and can lead to deaths in more wars, in a very literal sense. I only agree that right now Trump has a far way to go, true. But if more of his loyalist take the same tactics he did to win more elections that sets the very same road long term.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/pol....html?_r=0

He likes the fear and is ruthless in his business dealings. He conned his way to the presidency by selling the same hyper nationalism populist salespitch. Again, the only difference between Trump and Castro, or Hitler for that matter, is that we are still enough in tact that he is limited. BUT HIS TONE is toxic, both with global diplomacy which right now is the biggest concern, but domestically if GOP wins more elections replicating his demagoguery we will have a a one party state.

Everyone seems to be celebrating his death.

I don't blame them.

I hope my death is as widely celebrated.

(November 26, 2016 at 2:37 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:

(November 26, 2016 at 2:02 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: That's what they said about Trump.

The left is basically done in Britain at this point.

So no, he won't be PM.

We, along with Europe, are swinging to the right.

And that is a bad thing.
The right is not a good place. it is a selfish place, a place that separates based on petty differences or social standing that oppresses and removes help for the needy.
As the world lurches towards the right you will see hard fought for things go, you will see benefit payments cut, social housing sold off, cuts to every sort of social initiative as the rich try to keep all the money for themselves at the expense of everyone one else. They will not pay their share at the same time as railing against scroungers.

They're alright jack sod everyone else.
 
The right are the bad guys.

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(November 26, 2016 at 10:10 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:

(November 26, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You know who else is also ruthless, TRUMP. The only reason that asshole back peddles so much is that he doesn't have a dictatorship like Castro, but he has sure acted over the past 5 years like he would want one if he could create one.

Oh, well if we're naming horrible politicians:

Jeremy Corbyn
Nicola Sturgeon
Alex Salmond
Gerry Adams
Martin McGuinness

David Cameron must be on there as the worst PM ever. He has led the country into the disaterous Brexit which will cripple the UK forever and seems to be unexpectedly dragging down the world.
Brexit seems to be the point where the world went into the bad version of the star trek universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_rTTXCOpL8