(January 17, 2017 at 5:19 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Dude, what are you talking about violence for?  No one here has threatened you.  You're just arguing with the voices in your head again.

The question remains.  Did you call, or is this another one of your "someone besides me should do something" things?

Brian37, changing the world one post on an obscure website at a time.  Face it.  You just make these posts to make yourself feel better, and so you don't have to actually do something that will require effort.

Yes I did call

(January 17, 2017 at 5:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 17, 2017 at 5:19 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Dude, what are you talking about violence for?  No one here has threatened you.  You're just arguing with the voices in your head again.

The question remains.  Did you call, or is this another one of your "someone besides me should do something" things?

Brian37, changing the world one post on an obscure website at a time.  Face it.  You just make these posts to make yourself feel better, and so you don't have to actually do something that will require effort.

Yes I did call

Did you leave your information? Or was it an anonymous call?

Brewer asked first, but I'm curious now.

(January 17, 2017 at 5:30 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:

(January 17, 2017 at 5:27 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yes I did call

Did you leave your information? Or was it an anonymous call?

Brewer asked first, but I'm curious now.

Nope, not going to be baited by that. Not going to dare me to out myself. I have my reasons for not revealing my identity. Having that all or nothing attitude about life is not how you do it. 

There are people who do have reasons for not revealing themselves. Anyone who lives in a deeply red state can tell you. Anyone who has talked to a scared teen who is afraid to open up to their family about being LGBT, or wanting to leave religion, not just here, but in the east too, it isn't as simply as everyone giving their information. Some cannot afford to do it, but that does not mean they don't deserve a voice. Not just me, but any minority and not just in America but worldwide.

Not everyone has the luxury of a big family that agrees with them. Not everyone lives in areas with like minded people, not everyone has the means to be open and feel safe. Some people all they have is the internet. When the time comes I will, but for me right now, no. I will not be shamed in to or dared into anything. 

I have my reasons. Just like this website and admins would not reveal our our personal info. They know it is a safe place for both atheists and theists to say what they want without fear. I decide when I reveal myself, nobody else.

(January 17, 2017 at 5:50 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 17, 2017 at 5:30 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Did you leave your information? Or was it an anonymous call?

Brewer asked first, but I'm curious now.

Nope, not going to be baited by that. Not going to dare me to out myself. I have my reasons for not revealing my identity. Having that all or nothing attitude about life is not how you do it. 

There are people who do have reasons for not revealing themselves. Anyone who lives in a deeply red state can tell you. Anyone who has talked to a scared teen who is afraid to open up to their family about being LGBT, or wanting to leave religion, not just here, but in the east too, it isn't as simply as everyone giving their information. Some cannot afford to do it, but that does not mean they don't deserve a voice. Not just me, but any minority and not just in America but worldwide.

Not everyone has the luxury of a big family that agrees with them. Not everyone lives in areas with like minded people, not everyone has the means to be open and feel safe. Some people all they have is the internet. When the time comes I will, but for me right now, no. I will not be shamed in to or dared into anything. 

I have my reasons. Just like this website and admins would not reveal our our personal info. They know it is a safe place for both atheists and theists to say what they want without fear. I decide when I reveal myself, nobody else.

I wasn't trying to bait you.

But thank you for the answer.

Now when I say people should call, CBS sure, wont pass it on without personal info, sure, those who want to and feel safe doing it sure, but only if they want to. But they are requesting it. If you don't leave personal info, it is still good because at least they hear it as employees. That adds up as well. I would never tell anyone to do give out personal info if they did not want to.

(January 17, 2017 at 4:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Mr Brewer, 

I will take this post to explain to you without cussing in this post, why your attitude, and men worldwide in general have a hard time with diplomacy. When someone offends you, nobody would find it good, say if a kid, or your wife insulted you, to beat the crap out of them just because they offended you. 

Even between boys and men, NO it is not ok to threaten violence or dare someone into violence, not even between men. It does not make you brave to say "you wouldn't say that to my face'. That is merely protecting your ego and and threatening someone because you are bigger than they are.

In real life in your home, in a bar, or in the street, in real life you do have options when someone offends you. Ignore them, on this website if I am not correct there is a block option. In the streets or at a bar or anywhere in public, the option is the same. The other options are to say "f you back", or walk away. Once you threaten someone when they are not a threat to you, you are the bully at that point.

When you say to me "you wouldn't say that to my face" you are not showing intellect, you are not being the bigger man, even if you think I am being childish, you are merely reacting. All you are doing at that point is advocating "might makes right". That is not self defense. Moreso with someone who really does have political power, and when you have the power of government selling a mob rule mentality selling fear, you are no longer "telling it like it is". 

I say this in all sincerity not because I hate you personally, you piss me off yes, your attitude does bug me yes. But as far as literally wanting to physically harm you, no. 

So when I pick on your car, or pick on guns, or pick on a politician or even you, no, you do not have the right to imply violence as a solution. You ignore me, say "f-you back", try to explain to me why you don't agree, or walk away. Those are the only valid options, threats or dares are not an option. Those options are why we don't look like North Korea, or Iran or Saudi Arabia. 

If all of us got to harm people who said things we don't like everyone here could think of someone they'd like to harm, in the civil west you don't get to hurt others just because they offend you. 

Now that is all I can say in hopes you understand where I am coming from.

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(January 17, 2017 at 2:21 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Nice, very nice! You can think what ever you want about me, rant away. I expect little or nothing else from you. 

Let's see, from the 3 questions I asked, I received from you: bullshit testosterone, fucked up logic, middle east and muslims, money/power/army, dickweed, a fight, guns, ISIS, your mom and her harm, asshole, brawn (I wish), physical violence, murder, and that I implied violence toward you. 

But that's all beside the point. Answer the questions.

No I cannot think whatever I want about you, otherwise you would not dare me into a fight. You can cuss me out all you want, but I do get especially pissed of at threats or dares to fight. All bets are off verbally if you pull that shit with me. I don'[t have to take a dare to a fight to prove myself.

Ok Brian, time to put up of shut up. In which post did I physically threaten you? I have no recollection.

(January 17, 2017 at 6:17 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(January 17, 2017 at 4:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Mr Brewer, 

I will take this post to explain to you without cussing in this post, why your attitude, and men worldwide in general have a hard time with diplomacy. When someone offends you, nobody would find it good, say if a kid, or your wife insulted you, to beat the crap out of them just because they offended you. 

Even between boys and men, NO it is not ok to threaten violence or dare someone into violence, not even between men. It does not make you brave to say "you wouldn't say that to my face'. That is merely protecting your ego and and threatening someone because you are bigger than they are.

In real life in your home, in a bar, or in the street, in real life you do have options when someone offends you. Ignore them, on this website if I am not correct there is a block option. In the streets or at a bar or anywhere in public, the option is the same. The other options are to say "f you back", or walk away. Once you threaten someone when they are not a threat to you, you are the bully at that point.

When you say to me "you wouldn't say that to my face" you are not showing intellect, you are not being the bigger man, even if you think I am being childish, you are merely reacting. All you are doing at that point is advocating "might makes right". That is not self defense. Moreso with someone who really does have political power, and when you have the power of government selling a mob rule mentality selling fear, you are no longer "telling it like it is". 

I say this in all sincerity not because I hate you personally, you piss me off yes, your attitude does bug me yes. But as far as literally wanting to physically harm you, no. 

So when I pick on your car, or pick on guns, or pick on a politician or even you, no, you do not have the right to imply violence as a solution. You ignore me, say "f-you back", try to explain to me why you don't agree, or walk away. Those are the only valid options, threats or dares are not an option. Those options are why we don't look like North Korea, or Iran or Saudi Arabia. 

If all of us got to harm people who said things we don't like everyone here could think of someone they'd like to harm, in the civil west you don't get to hurt others just because they offend you. 

Now that is all I can say in hopes you understand where I am coming from.

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No I cannot think whatever I want about you, otherwise you would not dare me into a fight. You can cuss me out all you want, but I do get especially pissed of at threats or dares to fight. All bets are off verbally if you pull that shit with me. I don'[t have to take a dare to a fight to prove myself.

Ok Brian, time to put up of shut up. In which post did I physically threaten you? I have no recollection.

Ok, gotta go back and re read it.

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(January 17, 2017 at 1:45 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Have you called yet? If yes, what did you say?

Did you have the courage of your convictions and leave real name, phone#, address, .............?

Now you are daring me to take risks which is as if you'd like me to see my ass kicked. Mentally you can think that all you want. That is a veiled dare. I don't do things on dares. 

But do not tell me you don't at least think in your head one bit, you wouldn't feel like kicking my ass. You'd be lying.

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(January 17, 2017 at 1:19 pm)Iroscato Wrote: I gotta admit, I've rarely seen someone maintain the level of incandescant rage that you have for as long as you have, Brian. It's been over two months since election day, how are you doing this???

Holy crap you read nothing. As long as I have? "The election is over" no sorry, not the point of this post. That act is over, but the stage he set starting 5 years ago, isn't over, and even after his election, he is STILL carpet bombing people, media, intel, and a civil rights leader, even after he won. HIM, and he will after he gets the oath, will have force of law and intel, that makes him even more dangerous. No, I will not let it go.

Just because you think things are better for say LGBT or women or blacks or atheists now, does not erase the past, 40 or 50 or 100 or 200 years ago. My anger at him is to prevent a backslide. He cant even be a gracious winner. He is still poking people in the eye whom don't deserve it, regardless of if the fact they dont. He is  not a private citizen anymore, he is in a position of power. His demagoguery should concern everyone, not just me.

(January 17, 2017 at 6:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 17, 2017 at 6:17 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Ok Brian, time to put up of shut up. In which post did I physically threaten you? I have no recollection.

Ok, gotta go back and re read it.

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(January 17, 2017 at 1:45 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Have you called yet? If yes, what did you say?

Did you have the courage of your convictions and leave real name, phone#, address, .............?

Now you are daring me to take risks which is as if you'd like me to see my ass kicked. Mentally you can think that all you want. That is a veiled dare. I don't do things on dares. 

But do not tell me you don't at least think in your head one bit, you wouldn't feel like kicking my ass. You'd be lying.

So, is this your evidence of my physical threat to you? Can you explain how this is me physically threatening you? A "veiled dare" and a physical threat seem pretty far apart to me but I'm willing to listen to a more detailed explanation from you. 

I haven't been a physical fight since 7th grade, that's over 45 years ago. That's not my thing, but it is your paranoia. 

This was not a "veiled" dare but asking if you left the info with CBS so that they would take you seriously. It appears that you did not. That means no, you did not have the courage of your convictions. Yet you want others to make calls and give their info. 

How is giving the info a risk to you? CBS is going to show up at your house and get you? Again, paranoia. Now, if you went off on a rant and made terror threats on the phone they might have to report you but that would be a situation of your own making. 

I think that you live in victim mentality and when someone does not agree with you that you make yourself the victim all over again. I'm not quite sure what you gain from this except for maybe sympathy and/or pity. Do you use this manipulation tactic on other people around you IRL? Does it give you the love and attention that you desire?