(June 26, 2011 at 3:17 pm)Napoleon Wrote:

(June 25, 2011 at 12:43 pm)Zenith Wrote: Start watching porn with animals. Then give your opinion on that.

Hahahahahah, you've watched porn with animals? That's gross! EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Anything short of metrosexual porn contains porn with animals. Humans are, as it turns out: animals

The minute a relationship turns into a prison, it is dead.

Though, for some, that dead bit could be just the thing to extend the relationship ...

(June 26, 2011 at 2:52 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:

(June 26, 2011 at 12:17 pm)Girlysprite Wrote:

(June 25, 2011 at 4:57 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Long-lasting serious relationships are usually not loving ones for the whole length of them or even at all.

I'd love some research on that. I think that is just a big load of BS.

Mother and father: staying together because they don't have anywhere else to go and essentially need each other by now.
Sister and her husband (finally divorced semi-recently): stayed together for their children.
Friends of my father married for many years: stay together for monetary reasons and do not live together anymore.
Grandparents, both sets: hated each other. One set of them had fights so 'entertaining' that my elder siblings used to bring their friends over there just to watch. Knives may have been thrown.
Parents of a sister's best friend: Staying together due to both religion and children.
Brother and his wife: He complains so much about her. And my bet is that they fall apart inside of 2 years.
Parents of a former friend: stay together due firstly to the children and secondly to the fact that they are both broke and have nowhere else to go.
etc.

I'm not even going into unmarried monogamy... because the examples I have of this being negative after a time are ridiculously numbered.

Only marriage I know that has remained happy for an extended time is my eldest brother and a woman 10-15 years older than him. And the rest of our family in general dislikes his wife. And I only say that they remain happy because I don't know any better... there's probably ridiculous levels of drama in that relationship too.

Quote:Then again, from what I gather from your posts you mostly case about only yourself anyways, what you like and what you think is fun - even at the cost of others.

Having fun necessarily comes at the cost of all who work hard in this world just to survive. But that's an indirect cost. I don't commonly directly cost others when I am having fun.

You know the saying right? The plural of anecdote is not data.
Now, do you have some real data to show or only some more bad personal experiences to rattle off?

(June 26, 2011 at 3:22 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Anything short of metrosexual porn contains porn with animals. Humans are, as it turns out: animals

BLASPHEMY!

Are you really so ignorant as to not understand that we humans are the almighty lord's special creations!

(June 26, 2011 at 4:04 pm)Girlysprite Wrote: You know the saying right? The plural of anecdote is not data.
Now, do you have some real data to show or only some more bad personal experiences to rattle off?

Honey, I do not need any more data than that around me. I do not care about any experiences past my own, and I've no interest in finding some mystical number of people that claim they are in a happy monogamous relationship that means nothing in my reality.

I have plenty more bad experiences to rattle off. Your NTS about data provides you no credit from me

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(June 26, 2011 at 4:06 pm)Napoleon Wrote: BLASPHEMY!

Are you really so ignorant as to not understand that we humans are the almighty lord's special creations!

In a word: Yes.

In that case, almost all couples I know are happy. I know them well enough to know that they are happy.
It might not work for you or those around you, but that doesn't mean you can state that monogamy makes people sad as a fact. Well, you can try to, but you'll find people shrugging and rolling their eyes at your statements after a while.

So long as people communicate well across the spectrum of their needs and wants, I think monogamy can be great.

Girlysprite Wrote:In that case, almost all couples I know are happy. I know them well enough to know that they are happy.
It might not work for you or those around you, but that doesn't mean you can state that monogamy makes people sad as a fact. Well, you can try to, but you'll find people shrugging and rolling their eyes at your statements after a while.

And then I tickle them.

Quote:So long as people communicate well across the spectrum of their needs and wants, I think monogamy can be great.

Me and the Klackon communicate quite well I think. They tell me that they don't like me and are coming to kill me. I tell them that I don't like them and if I come for them I'm not going to tell them.

Nothing like a bit of twist and trout-er herring.