(February 2, 2017 at 9:21 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Nah it's really hard to get hold of guns in the UK. Because they're illegal. They don't sell them everywhere in stores.

It isn't.

Gun crime has slowly been rising over the years, just recently there was a man shot outside a school in my city. Paramilitary violence isn't as common as it was years ago in Northern Ireland but it still happens.

Compare that to a country where you can buy guns easily in stores i.e. America

Obviously having guns able to be sold in stores is going to increase the amount of guns people have and the amount of people killed by guns both deliberately and accidentally.

Quite frankly, it's worth it.

There is absolutely no excuse for disarming law abiding citizens, because the criminals still obtain firearms and ammunition relatively easily. "Muh Dunblane" won't really cut it for much longer and this culture of fear we live in regarding guns is absolutely pathetic.

(February 2, 2017 at 9:25 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Compare that to a country where you can buy guns easily in stores i.e. America

Obviously having guns able to be sold in stores is going to increase the amount of guns people have and the amount of people killed by guns both deliberately and accidentally.

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Trust me, you don't need a store in the US. That's one of the scary parts that needs to be fixed. All sales should be restricted to a licensed/registered dealers required to follow the checks and reporting.

Well, I just mean guns are less available here.

And yeah that is scary. I know America is scary.

There are many reasons I love America though. If I had a lot of money (and enough to afford healthcare) I'd happily move there.

I fucking hate it here.

(February 2, 2017 at 9:52 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well, I just mean guns are less available here.

And yeah that is scary. I know America is scary.

There are many reasons I love America though. If I had a lot of money (and enough to afford healthcare) I'd happily move there.

I fucking hate it here.

With the current president and cronies in power I wouldn't move to the states if they paid me 5 times what I'm making now.

No way.

I have a half brother that developed Schizophrenia when he in his late teens.  He heard voices, and they were telling him that my father was trying to get him.  Luckily he confided in me what the voices were saying and we were able to get him into a medical facility.  Because he was an "adult" this was a lot more difficult than you would thinks, but the judge and psychologist felt he was a clear danger to the family.

That was 20 years ago.  Today he is married and holds a job.  He's also medicated with antipsychotics.  Every few years he'll try to stop taking his meds, and every few years we have a family intervention.  Usually they tinker with his medications when this happens.  Sometimes that goes well, but sometimes it gets worse.  His wife is very attuned to his behaviors and can detect if he's missed his medications pretty quickly.

He does not need a gun in his presence.  My father is an avid hunter and owns quite a few guns.  To this day he feels that he's alive only because he had bought a new gun safe before the incident, and my brother didn't have the combination.

Mental illness is a nasty shit sandwich.  People with it and their loved ones have enough on their plates without worrying about easy access to guns.

I want an answer on this from a conservative. 

Why is it so important to them that everyone is able to exercise their 2nd amendments rights with the minimal amount of checks and documentation, but want the opposite for voting which is also a right?

In some states like Wisconsin you can legally buy a gun from a private seller while showing zero identification, but you can't vote without very specific documentation.  I guess we know which is more dangerous for conservatives.

(February 2, 2017 at 10:46 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(February 2, 2017 at 9:52 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well, I just mean guns are less available here.

And yeah that is scary. I know America is scary.

There are many reasons I love America though. If I had a lot of money (and enough to afford healthcare) I'd happily move there.

I fucking hate it here.

With the current president and cronies in power I wouldn't move to the states if they paid me 5 times what I'm making now.

No way.

Oh shit yeah lol. I was saying I wanted to move to the U.S. BEFORE Trump became president.

Okay if Obama was in power and I had a lot more money and could afford healthcare I'd want to move.

You gotta admit this country is kind of fucked too. What with the whole "LET'S JUMP OUTSIDE OF THE EU!" crap.

Yeah smart plan Britain. Let's be an isolated island on our own. We don't need Europe huh? More like Europe doesn't need our backward crap.

(February 2, 2017 at 10:46 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(February 2, 2017 at 9:52 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well, I just mean guns are less available here.

And yeah that is scary. I know America is scary.

There are many reasons I love America though. If I had a lot of money (and enough to afford healthcare) I'd happily move there.

I fucking hate it here.

With the current president and cronies in power I wouldn't move to the states if they paid me 5 times what I'm making now.

No way.

What if we tossed in a nice set of dishware and a subscription to the wine of the month club?

(February 2, 2017 at 8:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:  Some of the more common symptoms are: hallucinations, false perceptions of reality, paranoia, bizarre behaviours, delusions, depressions, anxiety, anger/rage, and sudden, uncontrollable shifts in mood.

Of course they overturned this.  It describes most of the Trump administration, including Trump himself.