Actually, animals having homosexual tendencies does make it natural. That's the definition of the word.

You are talking reason to someone who believes he has a fruitful personal relationship with corpse that fucked his own mother to give himself birth and then reversed an alleged self sacrifice by coming back to life and lording over everyone and everything.

Don't they call it "sodomy"? I thought that was the Biblical word for anal sex, which is strictly forbidden.

Literally any sex which is not done with the exact purpose of baby-making is banned, as is any sexual act outside marriage.

(February 8, 2017 at 9:37 am)Regina Wrote: Literally any sex which is not done with the exact purpose of baby-making is banned, as is any sexual act outside marriage.

Total BS. God is the author of sex and celebrates the union of man and woman within the confines of marriage; for pleasure and gratification, repeatedly.

I am constantly astounded by the lack of knowledge of the bible by a group that professes being intellectuals. Once again a thread is full of personal opinions/views and not an accurate reflection of scripture.

Read.

(February 8, 2017 at 1:12 am)Godschild Wrote:

(February 7, 2017 at 2:08 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Not natural. Not found in nature.

Sure about that?

So the proposition can be falsified by finding just one instance of homosexual activity in nature - discounting humans as natural for this.

Just one...

Even if some animals had homosexual tendencies that doesn't make it natural. The article you posted used human terms no animal could conceive the meaning of and words like may, might, possibly and could are not exactly purely positive statements, are they.
Like I said before the colon is designed as a one way street, it's specifically designed for evacuation not entry. This alone would make it unnatural.

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And that is precisely why my wife and I have taken measures to ensure that our dogs don't give in to their sin nature. Among the rules we've adopted are:

1) Led Zeppelin's "In Through the Out Door" must never be played within earshot of the girls (Led Zeppelin II, on the other hand, is appropriately heterosexual and may be played).

2) Any documentary footage of animals engaging in same-sex relations is forbidden; if any does slip through the cracks, it is immediately turned off and we shriek at the television, "Bad, bad goats!" (or whichever offensive species was seen), followed by an hour of prayer with the dogs. If they lick each other at any point during the prayers, we start the clock over. That resulted in a very long weekend recently, but it's worth it if we can eliminate such sinful urges.

3) Dog trainers are strictly screened to ensure a proper Biblically-based view of animal fucking.

4) We are currently shopping around for a therapist who can provide some preventive counseling to the dogs, and we ignore the haters who tell us we're crazy.

5) I am working closely with the dogs to teach them to sing "Jesus Loves Me". The results so far are mixed (one now utters a piercing howl; the other growls a lot), but I'm confident that with a judicious mix of beatings and treats, I can break their wills and make them love the Lord.

6) My wife and I realize that the dogs will model our behavior, so we've eliminated any "unnatural" sexual activity in bed: no anal, no oral, and certainly no missionary. It's straight biting and doggy-style these days, praise Jesus!

#adamandevenotrexandsteve

(February 8, 2017 at 9:56 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote:

(February 8, 2017 at 9:37 am)Regina Wrote: Literally any sex which is not done with the exact purpose of baby-making is banned, as is any sexual act outside marriage.

Total BS.  God is the author of sex and celebrates the union of man and woman within the confines of marriage; for pleasure and gratification, repeatedly.  

I am constantly astounded by the lack of knowledge of the bible by a group that professes being intellectuals.   Once again a thread is full of personal opinions/views and not an accurate reflection of scripture.  

Read.

No it more or less says that while sex can allow a married man and woman to bond, all sex should be performed open to the idea that children could be conceived. That is why Christianity also frowns upon contraception being used, even by married couples.

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Oh, "homosexuality is not natural" as well...

Go live naked out in the forest if you care about "nature" that much, seriously...

Cyanide is natural. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, though.

That's inane.

Haven't all theists forgone their right to argue what is natural when they have put their faith in a book on all things unnatural?

That's why the vast majority also believe in other woo.
Miracles occur in nature, zombies, men walk on water, turning water into wine, figtrees withering like timelapse photography, pigs suiciding, etc

I dunno. If you swallow all this stuff, eventually you can even justify a genocide of the whole human race.

Or maybe don't take it literally? In which case, it's been so far removed from God's actual wording that it shouldn't be considered holy. IMO.

(February 4, 2017 at 11:57 am)Godschild Wrote: You are all wrong, first sex is for pleasure and creating children…homosexuality is defined by scripture as unnatural anyone want to guess why. Well in case you can't anal sex is not natural…

The atheist AF members are correct that homosexual behaviors are common in nature. At the same time, I think they should be cautious not to anthropomorphize those behaviors. The lower species may not be motivated by sexual gratification to the extent that humans are. For example, presentation for mounting and mounting behaviors may have nothing to do with sex per se; but rather, reflect and/or preserve social hierarchies of dominance and submission in the pack.**

While the right and proper uses of our bodies ought to conform to Man’s nature as God intended, we must remember that we are part of a fallen creation. Our nature has been corrupted by sin. As such, people cannot reason to moral imperatives purely from observations about nature; but rather, knowledge of Christian doctrine comes by reasoning from holy scripture. For example, it seems pretty clear that homo sapiens is not strictly monogamous by nature; whereas, knowledge of God’s desire for traditional marriage comes to us through the special revelation of the Bible, despite the short-comings of some OT patriarch in that regard.

** We should remember that not all human sexual activities, such as rape or sado-masochism, are motivated purely for procreation and/or pleasure, either.