(February 8, 2017 at 7:07 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Lol, now Violet is bitching about globalists.  I'll say one thing.  She sure does have the right-wing spin lingo down.

Next thing you know she'll be complaining that Lady Gaga is one of Satan's minions.

Come now, sir... Lady Gaga thankfully didn't use her halftime show to push some kind of freaky agenda. Let's be fair: she kept her politics where it mattered, and didn't shove it in anyone's face.

Though, there is Madonna with that whole blow up the white house thing still And Shia LaCuck... a real shame about that last.

The trans vamps was a hilarious thing I saw recently. I gained me a whole new respect for Alex Jones... especially when I realized (cuz he said it, has an effect on the head I guess, don't know why I said realized, ill leave it because it's bizarre, but I digress) that he was saying it's what he believes that the globalists believe all that crap because of the things they've said... It was incredible to watch, hella entertaining if you can stomach chemtrails coming up and Alex Jones of all people correctin the record (as it were...) on the shit Eddie Bravo was saying.

... AJ's right surprisingly often, it's kinda terrifying actually xD It just beggers belief.

It's been a good week, in some ways. Better than many weeks Anyways, Globalism. It's a mixed bag. It's not all bad. It's a very long freakin subject and I'll have none of it here (watch as we start discussin it tho cuz that'll happen).

Alex Jones, right.

Violet, have you hit your head on something hard?

(February 8, 2017 at 6:09 pm)Sterben Wrote:      It is risky unless you have a really medical professional to properly diagnose a child. I'm not expert at all, I've read in some cases stating that it's just a phase that they go through. If they did not keep pressing this issue in main stream writings or media; this issue would be of less concern.

More like several. Too many people don't realize that medical professionals are also human, and can sometimes have different goals in life than in helping your kid. It's why for a very invasive and permanent surgery down the line that it isn't one but two letters of recommendation by licensed clinical therapists who've known the patient for a sufficient time (minimum standard is 6 months), and who can state that the patient has been living as their gender for a time greater than one year, and even then it isn't a sure thing if the surgeon/office has any doubts.

I see no reason why giving hormones to children should involve anything less than that... I daresay it should be much harder for children. The real agony of the condition comes with the onset of puberty (well, and the continuance of that).

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(February 8, 2017 at 7:18 pm)Alex K Wrote: Alex Jones, right.

Violet, have you hit your head on something hard?

I am failing to turn that into a joke.

How far I have fallen from the degree of verbal prowess I pretended that I once commanded!

But yeah, interesting stuff. Not the Infowars crap: no human alive could keep up with that ranting. But Joe Rogan in there to slow him down? It's excellent. If only for understanding the conspiracy theorists to be human and hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZPCp8SPfOM

Incase your interested ^, unlikely as that might be.

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(February 8, 2017 at 7:02 pm)noname Wrote: If a adult personally chooses to change their gender biologically? fine. But I don't think children, and teens(At least early teens) should be allowed to go through surgery, as in some cases, they're just going through a phase. I don't support those parents who have their 9 year old children's genitals removed. Also parents shouldn't pressure their children to change their sexuality/gender. Which goes both ways.

First, welcome to the forum, noname  Second: thank you for sharing your opinion on this topic.

Finally, what do you mean by that going both ways? That children shouldn't pressure their parents if they think they're feeling gender dysphoria?

If that is the case, I'd love to hear why you think that

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(February 8, 2017 at 7:10 pm)Alex K Wrote: If I want to listen to right wing talking points, I prefer Bella. More offensive fun, less self-loathing.

Bella? 

I know of a Blaire White I could turn you onto if you want to listen to right wing talking points, and want to hear it straight from another damn tranny

What I mean is how some people try to force their homosexual children to be straight, and how cases of people trying to pressure their children into changing their gender/sexuality.

(February 8, 2017 at 7:16 pm)Orochi Wrote: Violet might as well be a right wing talking point generator .And that would have the merit of actually being entertaining

Oh, it's you!

Being entertaining never did me any real favours here... do you feel that atheistforums.org is intentioned to be (or happens to exist as) some kind of trove of entertainment?

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(February 8, 2017 at 7:33 pm)noname Wrote: What I mean is how some people try to force their homosexual children to be straight, and how cases of people trying to pressure their children into changing their gender/sexuality.

Thank you for clarifying. I have no more questions. 

(February 8, 2017 at 7:17 pm)Violet Wrote: Come now, sir... Lady Gaga thankfully didn't use her halftime show to push some kind of freaky agenda. Let's be fair: she kept her politics where it mattered, and didn't shove it in anyone's face.

Though, there is Madonna with that whole blow up the white house thing still    And Shia LaCuck... a real shame about that last.

The trans vamps was a hilarious thing I saw recently. I gained me a whole new respect for Alex Jones... especially when I realized (cuz he said it, has an effect on the head I guess, don't know why I said realized, ill leave it because it's bizarre, but I digress) that he was saying it's what he believes that the globalists believe all that crap because of the things they've said... It was incredible to watch, hella entertaining if you can stomach chemtrails coming up and Alex Jones of all people correctin the record (as it were...) on the shit Eddie Bravo was saying.

... AJ's right surprisingly often, it's kinda terrifying actually xD It just beggers belief.

It's been a good week, in some ways. Better than many weeks Anyways, Globalism. It's a mixed bag. It's not all bad. It's a very long freakin subject and I'll have none of it here (watch as we start discussin it tho cuz that'll happen).

Ooh, you're even using "cuck" now. Your induction into simple-minded, teenage internet politics is complete.

You don't believe in chemtrails? Goddamn commie. Next you'll be telling me that climate change is man-made, the Denver airport isn't a hub for the New World Order and the government can't actually steer tornadoes with their super-secret technology.

I'm sorry; when did children start having their genitals removed as a result of their transgendered-ness?

Also, last I checked, parents weren't allowing their children to take hormones, but hormone blockers which basically just delay puberty.

(February 8, 2017 at 7:55 pm)The_Empress Wrote: I'm sorry; when did children start having their genitals removed as a result of their transgendered-ness?

Also, last I checked, parents weren't allowing their children to take hormones, but hormone blockers which basically just delay puberty.

If you're responding to my comment, I'm not saying that that is happening, I'm saying that SHOULDN"T happen. Also, a lesbian couple once did try to get their adopted male child's genitals removed. Although that is a 1 in a million incident, and an extreme outlier, I'm against it.

(February 8, 2017 at 7:25 pm)Violet Wrote:

(February 8, 2017 at 6:09 pm)Sterben Wrote:      It is risky unless you have a really medical professional to properly diagnose a child. I'm not expert at all, I've read in some cases stating that it's just a phase that they go through. If they did not keep pressing this issue in main stream writings or media; this issue would be of less concern.

More like several. Too many people don't realize that medical professionals are also human, and can sometimes have different goals in life than in helping your kid. It's why for a very invasive and permanent surgery down the line that it isn't one but two letters of recommendation by licensed clinical therapists who've known the patient for a sufficient time (minimum standard is 6 months), and who can state that the patient has been living as their gender for a time greater than one year, and even then it isn't a sure thing if the surgeon/office has any doubts.

I see no reason why giving hormones to children should involve anything less than that... I daresay it should be much harder for children. The real agony of the condition comes with the onset of puberty (well, and the continuance of that).

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(February 8, 2017 at 7:18 pm)Alex K Wrote: Alex Jones, right.

Violet, have you hit your head on something hard?

I am failing to turn that into a joke.

How far I have fallen from the degree of verbal prowess I pretended that I once commanded!

But yeah, interesting stuff. Not the Infowars crap: no human alive could keep up with that ranting. But Joe Rogan in there to slow him down? It's excellent. If only for understanding the conspiracy theorists to be human and hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZPCp8SPfOM

Incase your interested ^, unlikely as that might be.

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(February 8, 2017 at 7:02 pm)noname Wrote: If a adult personally chooses to change their gender biologically? fine. But I don't think children, and teens(At least early teens) should be allowed to go through surgery, as in some cases, they're just going through a phase. I don't support those parents who have their 9 year old children's genitals removed. Also parents shouldn't pressure their children to change their sexuality/gender. Which goes both ways.

First, welcome to the forum, noname  Second: thank you for sharing your opinion on this topic.

Finally, what do you mean by that going both ways? That children shouldn't pressure their parents if they think they're feeling gender dysphoria?

If that is the case, I'd love to hear why you think that

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(February 8, 2017 at 7:10 pm)Alex K Wrote: If I want to listen to right wing talking points, I prefer Bella. More offensive fun, less self-loathing.

Bella? 

I know of a Blaire White I could turn you onto if you want to listen to right wing talking points, and want to hear it straight from another damn tranny

             You make a good point about being checked out by many doctors of different specializations in order to properly diagnosis the condition. Which can be expensive and not covered by most HMO'S or PPO'S. Disagree with me all you want, but I don't think these cost should be covered by tax payers. If you have private insurance then it be up to the company if they cover such services. Besides that though, when you hear about these stories of a nine year old, or a eleven year old getting hormonal treatment. It's really messed up, these children have not even hit puberty yet. It's not my call to make, parents have the options to raise their children as they like. I do disagree with going that option so early in life. I would say at least wait until the age of sixteen to start any type of treatment in regards to hormone therapy.

I'm just wondering, genuine question I'm not "judging" anyone I'm just curious to know, have there been many studies done on the effects hormone blockers might have on brain development at puberty?

I'm sure the gender therapy doctors know more than all of us, but I just can't imagine it's that healthy and harmless, considering the stuff your head goes through as a teenager already without hormones.

I suppose time will tell as the first kids to try it get older.