Fox new reports on polls showing support of the ACA is up, and still rising. Commentors call it fake news. Rofl. These people are just blind with hatred of the poor and sick getting free healthcare. Wonderful Christian soldiers, one and all.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/...-push.html

A number of polls show the approval rating has risen between 4 and 9 points in a single month. I guess some people really did not realize that they were voting to take away their own benefits, or those of sick or elderly loved ones.

I have no idea what will happen. I read that Trump repotedly said if they could not pass thier own, they should leave it alone so Democrats could take the blame for failure. Meaning (sorry in advance for caps) THEY WOULD WRATHER SEE DEMOCRATS FAIL, EVEN IF IT COSTS THOUSANDS OF LIVES, than just do some freaking work and come up with a good plan, like single payer.

They are SO wedded to their ideology, they will hurt/kill people to get their own way. Fuckers.

I wouldn't take what Fox says on approval ratings as gospel. If it's confirmed by other sources one can take it seriously. Fox is the RT of Trump. The Trump Pravda.

Quote:It is like American Idol

No.  The worst result of American Idol is that a shitty album gets recorded.  There is no comparison.

(March 9, 2017 at 5:42 pm)abaris Wrote: I wouldn't take what Fox says on approval ratings as gospel. If it's confirmed by other sources one can take it seriously. Fox is the RT of Trump. The Trump Pravda.

Its backed by multiple sources, including 538.

My point was the Trumpsters really call anything they dislike "fake news" now, just like their hero. Even when it's from a source they normally praise.

Multiple new polls indicate the approval for the aca is currently at an all time high. And its up most amongst independent voters. Suddenly, the undecideds who went for Trump realized the Republican party was seriously going to take away the health care. Like thats new information!

Quote:They are SO wedded to their ideology, they will hurt/kill people to get their own way. Fuckers.

It's even worse than you know.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/03/09...t-aca-fail

Quote:Trump Promises Tea Party Groups He Will Punish America: If TrumpCare Fails, He Will Let ACA Fail

Quote:Truly unbelievable. Donald Trump is a President that is willing to harm millions of Americans, because he might not get his way on his disastrous TrumpCare plan.

What’s striking here, Trump has no problem punishing Americans for political gain and yet, he will never, ever criticize Vladimir Putin. He will go out of his way not to criticize his Putin. Even calling Putin “very smart”, yet he treats Americans like they were dumb. This is Trump at his elitist, narcissistic best. I got mine, so I could give a damn about you America.

Quote:. Even calling Putin “very smart”, yet he treats Americans like they were dumb. This is Trump at his elitist, narcissistic best. I got mine, so I could give a damn about you America

And his followers will love him for it .

(March 9, 2017 at 2:21 pm)abaris Wrote:

(March 9, 2017 at 1:43 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You guys are trying to blame the democrats for the stupidity of the electorate.  I'm not buying it either.  We had a national brain fart and he is now driving us over the cliff. 

Min, who do you want to blame? Blaming the electorate, stupid as it may be, doesn't cut it. They don't vote Republican just because while liberals stay at home. This should have been a slam dunk for every serious counter strategy, given that assclown. But no, they just sat back, didn't campaign in certain states, more or less flipping them their middle finger. And now they're all butthurt because they've lost everything. The houses as well as the presidency.

A challenge has to be a challenge. Sitting back and waiting offers none. So if they don't come up with something appealing at least to their own electorate in 2018, they will lose again.

What won the election was the illegal disenfranchisement of over 10,000,000 US citizens, plus Xenu knows how many uncounted votes (we have 75,0000 in Wisconsin alone) plain and simple. And if the republitraitors thought the Clinton campaign would get more votes they would have unpersoned more voters.

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(March 9, 2017 at 3:46 pm)abaris Wrote:

(March 9, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: At the end of the day people who fall for a scam are the architects of their own fate.

And that's it?

This was a competition. One site managed to incite their electorate, the other one didn't. Which is even more pathetic, looking at the winner.

So one can go and blame the people for being stupid, but it won't resolve anything unless the other side comes up with some appeal of their own. If that doesn't happen, and if they continue to shift the blame around, while sitting on their saturated asses, they will lose again.

Yes one side incited the electorate, and a gerrymandered Electoral College decided to say fuck you to the American people by installing the (serial) loser, who incidentally brought in the same voters as the previous two losers from his party (albeit slightly declined as their base is dying off).

(March 10, 2017 at 5:19 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: Yes one side incited the electorate, and a gerrymandered Electoral College decided to say fuck you to the American people by installing the (serial) loser, who incidentally brought in the same voters as the previous two losers from his party (albeit slightly declined as their base is dying off).

You know that the popular vote doesn't count shit in the American system. It's the states that count and the Electoral College voted in accordance with the system.

One can debate the justification for that 18th century system ad nauseam, and we have. Truth is, the assclown won according to the rules.

(March 10, 2017 at 6:16 am)abaris Wrote:

(March 10, 2017 at 5:19 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: Yes one side incited the electorate, and a gerrymandered Electoral College decided to say fuck you to the American people by installing the (serial) loser, who incidentally brought in the same voters as the previous two losers from his party (albeit slightly declined as their base is dying off).

You know that the popular vote doesn't count shit in the American system. It's the states that count and the Electoral College voted in accordance with the system.

One can debate the justification for that 18th century system ad nauseam, and we have. Truth is, the assclown won according to the rules.

No refutation of the millions of citizens illegally denied their right to vote? As we see in Wisconsin if even 5% of them were allowed then the EC would have reflected the national vote.

It's all well and good bleating "Hillary was a corporate shill" and "the Democrats didn't engage the voters", but the sole reason Drumpuck is in the White House is the real elephant in the room that everybody's trying to ignore, viz the republican party, en masse, comitted treason and stole the election. And they will go on stealing elections, because their base is dying off.

And it looks like Paul Ryan and Whiny Little Birch Care will be helping them along.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-w...83393.html

Quote:Paul Ryan’s repeal of Obamacare could spark ‘death spiral’ in some insurance markets

Death spiral and death panels.  Republicunts are never happier than when someone is dying.

Quote: House Speaker Paul Ryan says the Affordable Care Act is in a “death spiral,” but his own repeal legislation could, in fact, be the spark that causes insurance markets to unravel in certain areas of the country, according to a new analysis.
In the insurance industry, a “death spiral” happens when people begin to drop their individual coverage because they can’t afford it, leaving behind mostly sicker plan members whose higher medical costs then drive up premiums even more.
Insurers, left with fewer and more costly plan members, would ultimately stop offering coverage, which increases the numbers of uninsured — and so on as the pattern spirals out of control.