Reality has a liberal bias. Conservatives, and authoritarians tend to want to maintain the status quo in an ever changing world, and the more educated people are, the more likely they are to realize that if you don't change with time, you get left behind.

(March 21, 2017 at 10:14 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Reality has a liberal bias. Conservatives, and authoritarians tend to want to maintain the status quo in an ever changing world, and the more educated people are, the more likely they are to realize that if you don't change with time, you get left behind.

It's already too late people already know that the status quo is fucking them over even the poor educated red state republicans know that at this point.

Some of them perhaps.... by no means all.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/cancel-t...placement/

Quote:‘Cancel the vote’: Conservative Republicans urge Ryan to delay vote on Obamacare replacement

And it is Trumpcare.  Not an Obamacare replacement.

When higher education is so positively correlated with left-leaning politics and their policies are so contrary to common sense, it'd be more surprising if they weren't so hostile to education.

(March 21, 2017 at 10:42 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(March 21, 2017 at 10:14 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Reality has a liberal bias. Conservatives, and authoritarians tend to want to maintain the status quo in an ever changing world, and the more educated people are, the more likely they are to realize that if you don't change with time, you get left behind.

It's already too late people already know that the status quo is fucking them over even the poor educated red state republicans know that at this point.

Kind of an inevitability of the information age, where even poor people can usually find a library with internet access.

Then again, I ran across a story where some woman praised trupcare for her son's lower medical insurance cost. Something that hasn't even passed into law yet. So we still have a ways to go.

(March 21, 2017 at 10:55 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(March 21, 2017 at 10:42 pm)dyresand Wrote: It's already too late people already know that the status quo is fucking them over even the poor educated red state republicans know that at this point.

Kind of an inevitability of the information age, where even poor people can usually find a library with internet access.

Then again, I ran across a story where some woman praised trupcare for her son's lower medical insurance cost. Something that hasn't even passed into law yet. So we still have a ways to go.

reading that angered me and it also sadden me as well if she only knew what trump care would do to her and her family and millions of  families in the US.
all in all healthcare is a right and its  bullshit to bring up the argument of access. The fact is no one should have access to healthcare everyone should already have healthcare
and premium insurance should be a option and government mandatory healthcare is a free like every other  first world country.

U of A huh? The weather here in Tucson has been great this week. Beautiful sunsets and all.

My aged mother is a college professor (psychology), and I would say she is a left leaning liberal; but not a communist.

It seems to me that most in the psychology/sociology realm would gravitate leftward. Just the nature of the work and atmosphere.

(March 22, 2017 at 12:37 am)dyresand Wrote:

(March 21, 2017 at 10:55 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Kind of an inevitability of the information age, where even poor people can usually find a library with internet access.

Then again, I ran across a story where some woman praised trupcare for her son's lower medical insurance cost. Something that hasn't even passed into law yet. So we still have a ways to go.

reading that angered me and it also sadden me as well if she only knew what trump care would do to her and her family and millions of  families in the US. All in all healthcare is a right and its  bullshit to bring up the argument of access. The fact is no one should have access to healthcare everyone should already have healthcare and premium insurance should be a option and government mandatory healthcare is a free like every other  first world country.

I agree. I'm not sure why we don't consider healthcare as much a basic need as food, water, and shelter. But we have a big issue with people in power treating poor people with disdain, as they funnel money from the pockets of the poor and middle class into the pockets of the rich.

Republicans screw us over, Democrats refuse to fight back, and they bth work together to squash any third party.

(March 21, 2017 at 9:38 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: When the poors become educated, they might start questioning the elites and kick them out of power. It works out better for conservatives to talk the working classes into the idea that education is something to be mocked and disdained.

Our pop culture unfortunately has had a long history of painting the educated as "nerds" "dorks" "geeks". 

Pink Floyd "We don't need no education".....

Saved By The Bell, had Zack the popular guy and Screech always getting rejected by Lisa.

I can tell you being insecure and sensitive growing up I got bullied myself for not fitting in. 

Even way before I was born "Rebel Without A Cause" depicted a angst ridden teen bucking authority for what? Bullshit chasing a skirt, competing with morons by doing stupid dangerous bullshit. 

America for some stupid fucking reason loves selling ignorance and popularity.

Even the show Big Bang Theory really is a overblown stereotype of the highly educated. Although it does a far better job than shows in the past to convey more acceptance of others.

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(March 22, 2017 at 8:18 am)Chad32 Wrote:

(March 22, 2017 at 12:37 am)dyresand Wrote: reading that angered me and it also sadden me as well if she only knew what trump care would do to her and her family and millions of  families in the US. All in all healthcare is a right and its  bullshit to bring up the argument of access. The fact is no one should have access to healthcare everyone should already have healthcare and premium insurance should be a option and government mandatory healthcare is a free like every other  first world country.

I agree. I'm not sure why we don't consider healthcare as much a basic need as food, water, and shelter. But we have a big issue with people in power treating poor people with disdain, as they funnel money from the pockets of the poor and middle class into the pockets of the rich.

Republicans screw us over, Democrats refuse to fight back, and they bth work together to squash any third party.

No, it isn't that Dems refuse to fight back. Our lack of ability to push back didn't happen overnight. It is hard to fight back when you live under 36 years of GOP gerrymandering of our national and state district maps. It also didn't help that democratic voters gave up after Reagan successfully busted the airline unions. We suck at showing up in local and state elections on both even and odd years. Our politicians are hostages and the only way we free them to fight back and give them the power to fight back is to participate and speak out every day and vote in every election every year.

We don't need a third party, we need more participation.

(March 22, 2017 at 8:32 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 21, 2017 at 9:38 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: When the poors become educated, they might start questioning the elites and kick them out of power. It works out better for conservatives to talk the working classes into the idea that education is something to be mocked and disdained.

Our pop culture unfortunately has had a long history of painting the educated as "nerds" "dorks" "geeks". 

Pink Floyd "We don't need no education".....

Saved By The Bell, had Zack the popular guy and Screech always getting rejected by Lisa.

I can tell you being insecure and sensitive growing up I got bullied myself for not fitting in. 

Even way before I was born "Rebel Without A Cause" depicted a angst ridden teen bucking authority for what? Bullshit chasing a skirt, competing with morons by doing stupid dangerous bullshit. 

America for some stupid fucking reason loves selling ignorance and popularity.

Even the show Big Bang Theory really is a overblown stereotype of the highly educated. Although it does a far better job than shows in the past to convey more acceptance of others.

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(March 22, 2017 at 8:18 am)Chad32 Wrote: I agree. I'm not sure why we don't consider healthcare as much a basic need as food, water, and shelter. But we have a big issue with people in power treating poor people with disdain, as they funnel money from the pockets of the poor and middle class into the pockets of the rich.

Republicans screw us over, Democrats refuse to fight back, and they bth work together to squash any third party.

No, it isn't that Dems refuse to fight back. Our lack of ability to push back didn't happen overnight. It is hard to fight back when you live under 36 years of GOP gerrymandering of our national and state district maps. It also didn't help that democratic voters gave up after Reagan successfully busted the airline unions. We suck at showing up in local and state elections on both even and odd years. Our politicians are hostages and the only way we free them to fight back and give them the power to fight back is to participate and speak out every day and vote in every election every year.

We don't need a third party, we need more participation.

Well people are participating now, and the establishment dems hate them for it. Progressives are getting out, but the DNC isn't listening.