(May 26, 2017 at 9:44 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: I'm an atheist, who despises morons, like you, who don't understand evolution. There's nothing in evolution theory, that opposed gay rights, for example. Most mammal species display a certain amount of homosexual  behaviors and it's not a problem. In fact, it can often be beneficial. Only simpletons and macho-posturing c*nts see evolution as a race to procreate. There are countles examples of animal species, where a large proportion of specimens are unable, or "unwilling" to procreate, yet their "societies" survive and are bettet for it - like social insects, or pack mammals.

Get a f*cking education, dimwit, and stop using pseudo-science to rationalize your bigotry, inherited from your goat-f*cking ancestors... And then suck a d*ck.

I despise atheist like you for showing anger at something non existent. I only said a mere snippet of my beliefs so they would not be taken as something wholly important. Also you are talking to a guy with enough scholarships to make your head spin, if the current education is this lacking in its ability to teach critical thinking and mandate wider philosophical practices then I am very worried. 

. . . I would just assume that you are uneducated though.

As for my statement about homosexuality. It is not productive evolutionary nor is a union of homosexual pairs a norm, especially in primates. You do not see any animal on earth using hierarchy to legitimize mating or sexual pairs yet so many atheist think a National Daddy needs to give them permission. That is all I am stating and that alone gives you enough fire to make an idiot out of yourself. 

Please fuck off you ignorant sack of shit.

Quote:I admit to being an utter sadist and I enjoy my latex and spiked dildos but I do not seek state recognition to make my gf my legal sex slave.

Yeah.... but should you be thrown off a building by towel-wearing barbarians because of it?


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/7526...th-penalty

Quote:Evil Islamic State jihadis chuck prisoner off building as punishment for being GAY

There is nothing in evolution that condemns homosexuality . most members of species never reproduce . And thus homosexuality causes no real net loss .

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Quote:I admit to being an utter sadist and I enjoy my latex and spiked dildos but I do not seek state recognition to make my gf my legal sex slave.

1 Homosexuality isn't a fetish fuckwit

2. Don't compare a loving gay relationship to your weakness

(May 26, 2017 at 9:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:I admit to being an utter sadist and I enjoy my latex and spiked dildos but I do not seek state recognition to make my gf my legal sex slave.

Yeah.... but should you be thrown off a building by towel-wearing barbarians because of it?


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/7526...th-penalty

Quote:Evil Islamic State jihadis chuck prisoner off building as punishment for being GAY

You are talking to a former Hanafi Muslim so I am familiar with how Islam handles homosexuality in accordance to the kutab al-Sittah and I obviously do not agree with it nor do I care with what people do in their bedroom at all unless it involves a girl who looks like an anime loli. <--- humor

But why is this relevant? I am only curious about the variety in atheism. Even in my college life I have experienced some variety in atheism yet every single atheist I encountered was completely despicable or just intellectually dishonest. The only reasonable 'atheists' I ever metal were apatheistic towards religion although clearly expressed no belief in a deity. So this only leaves me puzzled as I have been an atheist for years. Even by the time I left Islam I was already in norm with many opinions held by atheist. I was officially booted out of Muslim groups for showing "love towards kufur."

Don't get me started on Muslims and their obsession with getting rid of love and their lengthy rants on how it is sinful to show kindness to others. You would be begging to socialize with a fundie Christian in a matter of minutes. 

Quote:But why is this relevant?

Because you still sound like a prisoner of your barbaric upbringing.  Perhaps a psychologist?

(May 26, 2017 at 9:52 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: There is nothing in evolution that condemns homosexuality . most members of species never reproduce . And thus homosexuality causes no real net loss .

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Quote:I admit to being an utter sadist and I enjoy my latex and spiked dildos but I do not seek state recognition to make my gf my legal sex slave.

1 Homosexuality isn't a fetish fuckwit

2. Don't compare a loving gay relationship to your weakness

It is, get over it. The APA only changed it to make it socially acceptable because of the politicizing of it. It still fits EVERY single definition of a paraphilia. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3310132/

Also, don't compare homosexuality to your depravity. I have known many principled and honorable homosexuals. The the person I respect the most is a bisexual theist who loves using Platonic logic to argue humorous opinions. You don't have the intellectual fortitude to read a sentence yet alone engage in an honest conversation.

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(May 26, 2017 at 10:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:But why is this relevant?

Because you still sound like a prisoner of your barbaric upbringing.  Perhaps a psychologist?

I was a convert to Islam at around the age 14 and I was never raised into the religion. I more so respected and admired fulsafa (Islamic philosophy) than the actual religion itself, and I never displaced the opinions I have no until I became a very heterodox Muslim. I studied Ismailiyyah and Bektakshiyyah a lot and this is actually how I became an atheist. I know it is ironic that Islam made me an atheist but I had to deal with a lot of bullshit as a Muslim it was unbelievable.

On a side not, I am posing my question to atheists because I have never derived any of my opinions from Islam, I was more liberal as a Muslim then as an atheist ironically. This is again the main reason I was an outcast as a Muslim because I held a great deal for philosophy than I did for theology. I respected Ibn Rushid far more than I respected Muhammad.

(May 26, 2017 at 10:07 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: It is, get over it. The APA only changed it to make it socially acceptable because of the politicizing of it. It still fits EVERY single definition of a paraphilia. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3310132/

You work for the APA now? You're certified through proper schooling in understanding how psychology works?

From the same article you linked:

Quote:In considering the foregoing review, one should remember that the evidence is indirect: These correlates were not explored here because any of them is a sine qua non either of homosexuality or of any paraphilia. It is entirely possible that other, still unexplored, correlates are more central to the etiology of human sexual interests and that the correlates discussed in this article are merely tangential. Because only few paraphilic interests have received much scientific attention, it also remains possible that each paraphilia is associated with its own, novel set of correlates, and that homosexuality is no more novel in its profile of correlates than would be any other paraphilic interest. Thus, although homosexuality is probably better said to be distinct from the paraphilias, that conclusion is still quite tentative.

(May 26, 2017 at 10:10 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(May 26, 2017 at 10:07 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: It is, get over it. The APA only changed it to make it socially acceptable because of the politicizing of it. It still fits EVERY single definition of a paraphilia. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3310132/

You work for the APA now?  You're certified through proper schooling in understanding how psychology works?

From the same article you linked:

Quote:In considering the foregoing review, one should remember that the evidence is indirect: These correlates were not explored here because any of them is a sine qua non either of homosexuality or of any paraphilia. It is entirely possible that other, still unexplored, correlates are more central to the etiology of human sexual interests and that the correlates discussed in this article are merely tangential. Because only few paraphilic interests have received much scientific attention, it also remains possible that each paraphilia is associated with its own, novel set of correlates, and that homosexuality is no more novel in its profile of correlates than would be any other paraphilic interest. Thus, although homosexuality is probably better said to be distinct from the paraphilias, that conclusion is still quite tentative.

It is as if you cannot fathom what unbiased means. Would you rather me link you to FOX news instead of picking something more middle ground?

(May 26, 2017 at 10:15 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: It is as if you cannot fathom what unbiased means. Would you rather me link you to FOX news instead of picking something more middle ground?

As opposed to the bias you have shown since the original post?

(May 26, 2017 at 10:19 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(May 26, 2017 at 10:15 pm)ComradeMeow Wrote: It is as if you cannot fathom what unbiased means. Would you rather me link you to FOX news instead of picking something more middle ground?

As opposed to the bias you have shown since the original post?

When somebody holds opinions that mediate between two opposing sides the last thing somebody ever claims is bias. I understand you lack insight as to what I originally said in the original post but instead of addressing my original question you are lying to try to discredit me on an opinion I do not even hold. It is just a matter of you playing the game Crucify The Theist. This is the main reason I never post on this forum as it is filled with jokers like you. 

I state some very basic opinions and basic questions yet the only person showing any honesty is Minimalist. What excuse do you have for avoiding the topic and lying about what I said about homosexuality? 

Please piss off and realize most people in the world don't agree with you or care anything about you.