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July 2, 2017 at 3:02 pm (This post was last modified: July 2, 2017 at 3:03 pm by Astonished.)
(July 2, 2017 at 12:45 pm)Luckie Wrote: Can't have all those poor children and nuns taking an easy out from their abusers, could they?
Or an easy way for their abusers to give in to their guilt if it does catch up to them.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
(July 1, 2017 at 11:39 pm)Astonished Wrote: Isn't Jesus getting crucified to death a means of god committing suicide? So where's this prohibition coming from? Fuck man, god is a hypocrite about absolutely everything he tells us not to do.
If you bring arguments like this chrisitians will usaully respond that He is God and He can do whatever the fuck He want's.
I wonder where did the idea of suicide as a sin came from. Whas it in the bible or did it came from the church?
Ancient governments like the Romans had laws against suicide because it messed up the procedures for seizing the dead person's property.
Later on in what's now France the ruler decreed that anyone who committed suicide had to be buried face down. The government could kill people but it didn't want people to take things into their own hands. That was the government's job.
(July 1, 2017 at 11:39 pm)Astonished Wrote: Isn't Jesus getting crucified to death a means of god committing suicide? So where's this prohibition coming from? Fuck man, god is a hypocrite about absolutely everything he tells us not to do.
If you bring arguments like this chrisitians will usaully respond that He is God and He can do whatever the fuck He want's.
I wonder where did the idea of suicide as a sin came from. Whas it in the bible or did it came from the church?
God committing suicide is not an argument, it is simply only another mischaracterization in a long line of mischaracterizations by uninformed atheists who are not interested in actually understanding anything for which they rail against. The intellectual integrity here is appallingly low.
If suicide is self-murder and murder is a sin, suicide is a sin. Christians believe that human life has intrinsic value and therefore crimes against that value is sin. I don't believe that Atheists have any basis for assigning intrinsic value to human life.
Like I said show me book, chapter and verse where the Bible says hell is not eternal.
GC
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
GC Wrote:Like I said show me book, chapter and verse where the Bible says hell is not eternal.
(June 30, 2017 at 11:40 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: According to the biblical fairy tale no one spends eternity in hell. On Judgment Day hell gets tossed into the lake of fire, along with people who don't get into the golden cube.
In Islam people do spend eternity in hell.
Which fairy tale are you thinking about?
Please show me scriptures books, chapters and verses.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(July 3, 2017 at 7:47 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Like I said show me book, chapter and verse where the Bible says hell is not eternal.
GC
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Can you read and understand Revelation 20:14 (DRA)? = "And hell and death were cast into the pool of fire. This is the second death."
I could give you many verses that calls hell eternal, but instead let's try this, the second death is the same as the first death, separation from God. Except the second will offer no redemption and thus is eternal.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(July 2, 2017 at 6:44 am)Die Atheistin Wrote: If you bring arguments like this chrisitians will usaully respond that He is God and He can do whatever the fuck He want's.
I wonder where did the idea of suicide as a sin came from. Whas it in the bible or did it came from the church?
God committing suicide is not an argument, it is simply only another mischaracterization in a long line of mischaracterizations by uninformed atheists who are not interested in actually understanding anything for which they rail against. The intellectual integrity here is appallingly low.
If suicide is self-murder and murder is a sin, suicide is a sin. Christians believe that human life has intrinsic value and therefore crimes against that value is sin. I don't believe that Atheists have any basis for assigning intrinsic value to human life.
When you make up bullshit like anything having any intrinsic value, you come across as an uninformed and naive person, regardless of whatever other woo beliefs you hold. And that's why you don't know fucking shit about what you're talking about, ass. I'm not even raising an argument there, I was making fun of how STUPID your whole fucking religion is. Your intellectual integrity isn't just low, it's non-existent. Quit projecting your own fuck-ups and inadequacy as a human being on us, dipshit. And you idiotically proved me RIGHT with the first sentence of your second paragraph, 'tard. And let me guess - you're going to say god can't commit murder because he's god, right? Because otherwise how can you claim Xtians believe that life has an intrinsic value when god so enjoys exterminating it with abandon? You are fucking INSANE to believe this and not see the hypocrisy and impossibility of these propositions. Seek help before it leads you to do something that does destroy your life, if there's a shred of hope you can emancipate yourself, otherwise, go ahead and keep falling down the rabbit hole til you walk into traffic rubbing your finger over your lips, you won't be missed.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
(July 3, 2017 at 10:08 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Can you read and understand Revelation 20:14 (DRA)? = "And hell and death were cast into the pool of fire. This is the second death."
I could give you many verses that calls hell eternal, but instead let's try this, the second death is the same as the first death, separation from God. Except the second will offer no redemption and thus is eternal.
GC
Hell is eternal in Islam; it's temporary in the biblical fairy tale.
