(July 5, 2017 at 10:31 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Religion A: Our book is perfect in every way.
Religion B: Our book is perfect in every way.

Religion A: Religion B's book has xxx number of flaws in it and here they are.
Religion B: Religion A's book has xxx number of flaws in it and here they are.

Religion A to Religion B: You are taking our book out of context!
Religion B to Religion A: You are also taking our book out of context!

Atheist: What's to take out of context when both of your gods rape, beat and murder women, think slavery is okay, and have sex with little girls? Both of your books and your gods suck.

Religion A and B to the Atheist: God is good, you'd know that if you just believed.

(July 5, 2017 at 10:33 am)Lutrinae Wrote:

(July 5, 2017 at 10:31 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Religion A: Our book is perfect in every way.
Religion B: Our book is perfect in every way.

Religion A: Religion B's book has xxx number of flaws in it and here they are.
Religion B: Religion A's book has xxx number of flaws in it and here they are.

Religion A to Religion B: You are taking our book out of context!
Religion B to Religion A: You are also taking our book out of context!

Atheist: What's to take out of context when both of your gods rape, beat and murder women, think slavery is okay, and have sex with little girls? Both of your books and your gods suck.

Religion A and B to the Atheist: God is good, you'd know that if you just believed.

Atheist to Religions A and B: In the words of a great friend of mine: Go blow your God out your ass!

(July 5, 2017 at 1:29 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 4, 2017 at 9:58 pm)Vast Vision Wrote: And why don't you consider this statement referring to the vast amount of stars you can see at the sky at night? You do exactly what Islamic clerics do. Interpreting religious texts to meet scientific standards.

 
I did not interpret anything, it's plainly stated in Genesis and it's a fact that only a limited number of stars can be seen at any one time in the night sky, both of these things are undeniable facts and if this is your roundabout attempt at denying the facts it's a poor one. I do not have any idea what Islamic clerics do and do not care except for there attempt to lead others astray. If this is all you can do after all I posted then I guess there's not much left for me to say except that facts are facts and these are undeniable.

GC

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(July 4, 2017 at 10:34 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The guy who wrote the Yeshua dialogue in Matthew 24:29 thought that the stars were tiny points of light that will fall to the Earth.  He thought that stars were just tiny meteors.

Matthew 24:29 (CEV) = "Right after those days of suffering,

“The sun will become dark,
and the moon
    will no longer shine.
The stars will fall,
and the powers in the sky
    will be shaken.”

The guy who wrote Revelation 12:4 was even more clueless.

Revelation 12:4 (CEV) = "With its tail, it dragged a third of the stars from the sky and threw them down to the earth. Then the dragon turned toward the woman, because it wanted to eat her child as soon as it was born."

 Why do you insist on showing such a great lack of knowledge and understanding, most goof balls can understand that Rev. 12:4 isn't an actual fact based telling of the story of Jesus birth. It's a representation of what Satan would try and do, kill the child, through king Herod. The deal with the dragon sweeping 1/3rd of the stars from heaven is in reference to Lucifer convincing those angels to follow him.

As for Matt. 24:29 you should have read on instead of doing your usual cherry picking. If you're going to continue to criticize Christians for cherry picking you need to stop this common practice of yours. Now to the meaning of the verse, this is to portray the turmoil the nations of the earth will be going through at Christ's return. If you had read on instead of googling everything you post you might learn to say things like this. With Christ returning to raise up His people then it's not possible for the stars to fall to earth because they would destroy it before Christ could raise up His people. Even if the book of Matthew were a work of fiction this type of reasoning would be appropriate for the story to make sense. You fail at your attempt to discredit this story even if it were fictional, sad, very sad.

GC

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(July 4, 2017 at 9:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You know G-C, you go away for a while and come back and you are still a blithering moron.

Your fucking god would be so proud of you...... if he existed!

Min you're getting old and faltering, why do you even try.

GC

SO many interpretations of the book of Revelations.  It's really too bad that the whole piece reads like it came from a bronze-age shaman hopped up to the gills on some really, really potent 'shrooms.  (Yes, I've read it, many times - it was my Mothers' favorite book.)  I rather prefer the Revelations take that many scholars follow (although how one can come to any conclusions about a confused description of a really bad LSD trip is almost as mind-boggling as the book) - - that it was written before 70 "AD" and predicted the fall of Jerusalem. The dragon, and all the evil, is descriptive of the Roman empire.   But, of course, the fact that absolutely nobody on the planet can actually say what this work of drivel MEANS proves to me that it doesn't mean ANYTHING of ANY IMPORTANCE other than it's moronic drivel, and there is certainly no deity involved.

Wouldn't everything in the book of Revelations by on hold, so to speak, until all remembrance of the Amalekites is blotted out ??

Revelations is nothing more than a fairy tale to scare people into behaving.

(July 5, 2017 at 11:52 am)Lutrinae Wrote: Revelations is nothing more than a fairy tale to scare people into behaving.

But for the faithful to imply anything in Revelation as being 'imminent' would be indicative of heresy, no ??

Especially as remembrance of Amalek and the Amalekites are very much not yet blotted out ??


We need to help our theistic friends hone and refine their 'game' (so to speak) as I am desirous of having actual True Believers airing their pro-Deity case here instead of the steady execrable dribble of apostates and heretics we are currently plagued with.

Apostates and heretics are de facto on our side as it is, and not much of a challenge debate-wise.

I'm still holding out for getting the real thing here, someday, and then Atheist Forums will be directly engaging God-ism, and not the wannabes, posers, fakers, and pretenders with their ersatz and simulacra of the actual One True Faith.

Quote:Min you're getting old and faltering, why do you even try.

GC

It takes no effort at all to shit on you and your absurd god.  You, and it, make it so easy.  I figure I have a good 15 years left.

and then the sphincter muscles give out ?

That would make it even easier, wouldn't it?

I think you need to be able to build up some pressure in the plumbing for maximum range.

Flaccidity is never a good thing . . .