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RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 8, 2017 at 10:11 am
I have a feeling that the Dothraki are going to die against the whitewalkers. There's a bit of an issue of what to do with them once the wars are done... The Reach wouldn't be big or grassy enough for the whole horde.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 8, 2017 at 10:39 am
(August 8, 2017 at 10:11 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I have a feeling that the Dothraki are going to die against the whitewalkers. There's a bit of an issue of what to do with them once the wars are done... The Reach wouldn't be big or grassy enough for the whole horde.
They go back to their home country, to the Dothraki sea, leaving a few for Dany's personal guard.... the new version of the Kingsguard. Ships can go both ways, you know?
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 8, 2017 at 10:42 am
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Wow, I was blown away. Great episode! I was on the edge of my seat for the entire final 20 minutes. Also, loved the practice between Brianne and Arya!
Saw it a few days late, avoided the thread for fear of spoilers. Will read it now.
(August 8, 2017 at 6:54 am)Iroscato Wrote: (August 8, 2017 at 6:08 am)pocaracas Wrote: Just thought these would look good...
I'm almost uncomfortable with how erect those shots made me. Almost.
Great shots! I feel like I've waited years just to see this very episode. The special effects were awesome, even if there were some little inconsistencies. Who cares? Drogon torched that supply line, fuck yeah! Seriously!
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 8, 2017 at 11:08 am
(August 8, 2017 at 10:39 am)pocaracas Wrote: (August 8, 2017 at 10:11 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I have a feeling that the Dothraki are going to die against the whitewalkers. There's a bit of an issue of what to do with them once the wars are done... The Reach wouldn't be big or grassy enough for the whole horde.
They go back to their home country, to the Dothraki sea, leaving a few for Dany's personal guard.... the new version of the Kingsguard. Ships can go both ways, you know?
Nah. They gotsa die for Khaleesi.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 13, 2017 at 10:18 pm
So Jon isn't even a bastard...
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 14, 2017 at 2:26 am
(August 13, 2017 at 10:18 pm)Jello Wrote: So Jon isn't even a bastard...
The clunkiest and most unnecessary bit of exposition of the entire series, perhaps? What are we supposed to do with that information, anyway? Oh, they got married - how romantic. So Jon Snow is not a son of some slut - he's a proper human being, because the parents he never knew were soooo in luv...
Stupid episode.
The way they edited Bron and Jamie - the latter still wearing his armor - resurfacing miles away from the battlefield - that was dumb, or at least unnecessarily misleading.
Jon Snow fingering Daenerys' dragon - dumb.
Varys and Tyrion being squeamish about execution of Tarlys, who were known to be disloyal, but who for no good reason decided to grow a backbone right after getting their a**es handed to them - dumb.
Tyrion and Davos traveling to King's Landing - that's just outright idiotic. Couldn't they send just about anybody with a message for Jamie, at least until Jon Snow returns with the evidence? And even then - if they have a wight or whatever they're planning to catch, then sending a bunch of men to dump it on Cersei's doorstep, ring the doorbell and run away - that would probably be enough of a message for her to want to talk about what's going on in the North, wouldn't it?
Samwell Tarly - ever a whiner, a quitter and a thief...
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 14, 2017 at 10:21 am
(August 14, 2017 at 2:26 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (August 13, 2017 at 10:18 pm)Jello Wrote: So Jon isn't even a bastard...
The clunkiest and most unnecessary bit of exposition of the entire series, perhaps? What are we supposed to do with that information, anyway? Oh, they got married - how romantic. So Jon Snow is not a son of some slut - he's a proper human being, because the parents he never knew were soooo in luv...
Stupid episode.
The way they edited Bron and Jamie - the latter still wearing his armor - resurfacing miles away from the battlefield - that was dumb, or at least unnecessarily misleading.
Jon Snow fingering Daenerys' dragon - dumb.
Varys and Tyrion being squeamish about execution of Tarlys, who were known to be disloyal, but who for no good reason decided to grow a backbone right after getting their a**es handed to them - dumb.
Tyrion and Davos traveling to King's Landing - that's just outright idiotic. Couldn't they send just about anybody with a message for Jamie, at least until Jon Snow returns with the evidence? And even then - if they have a wight or whatever they're planning to catch, then sending a bunch of men to dump it on Cersei's doorstep, ring the doorbell and run away - that would probably be enough of a message for her to want to talk about what's going on in the North, wouldn't it?
Samwell Tarly - ever a whiner, a quitter and a thief...
It's not unnecessary. As a non-bastard targaryen male, Jon has more claim to the throne than Daenarys has. Dany knows that Jon's definitely something if her dragon allowed him to do that, Tyrion and Varys i admit was a bit stupid, but i think Tyrion had to tell Jaime, otherwise he may not have believed them, but yeah the timing could have been better for them And sam needs to get all this useful information up north, sitting around copying shit isn't gonna help anyone in any capacity.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 14, 2017 at 10:39 am
(August 8, 2017 at 8:23 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Dothraki love cooked horsemeat. It's a feast for them!
Though...judging from the soldiers there might only be horse-ashes left over.
It is essential to baste and turn your horse constantly when cooking with dragon fire.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 14, 2017 at 11:06 am
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(August 14, 2017 at 2:26 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (August 13, 2017 at 10:18 pm)Jello Wrote: So Jon isn't even a bastard...
The clunkiest and most unnecessary bit of exposition of the entire series, perhaps? What are we supposed to do with that information, anyway? Oh, they got married - how romantic. So Jon Snow is not a son of some slut - he's a proper human being, because the parents he never knew were soooo in luv...
Stupid episode.
The way they edited Bron and Jamie - the latter still wearing his armor - resurfacing miles away from the battlefield - that was dumb, or at least unnecessarily misleading.
Jon Snow fingering Daenerys' dragon - dumb.
Varys and Tyrion being squeamish about execution of Tarlys, who were known to be disloyal, but who for no good reason decided to grow a backbone right after getting their a**es handed to them - dumb.
Tyrion and Davos traveling to King's Landing - that's just outright idiotic. Couldn't they send just about anybody with a message for Jamie, at least until Jon Snow returns with the evidence? And even then - if they have a wight or whatever they're planning to catch, then sending a bunch of men to dump it on Cersei's doorstep, ring the doorbell and run away - that would probably be enough of a message for her to want to talk about what's going on in the North, wouldn't it?
Samwell Tarly - ever a whiner, a quitter and a thief...
Oh no, not unecessary at all. It is extremely important to the story. It proves that Rhaegar and Lyanna were married, and Elia Martell was divorced. Which makes Jon not just the son of the Prince Regent of the realm, but a trueborn son, and true heir to the Iron Throne. Daenerys is Rhaegar's sister, which means she only inherits the Iron Throne if Rhaegar had no offspring. That's why Ser Arthur Dayne let Ned Stark beat him at the Tower of Joy. He knew that the only chance that Jon would survive is if Ned took him as his own bastard, and Ned would never surrender (that stupid pride thing). Jon tells Dany the exact same thing that Arthur Dayne told Ned at the Tower of Joy. "I wish you good fortune in all the wars to come." Dayne knew he wouldn't survive, and that Jon's existence would mean wars were imminent. I'd imagine we'll visit Starfall (the home of the Dayne house, and the Maester that recorded the anullment) to confirm further.
This show is calling back to major plot points from the past. Sending a wight to King's Landing to prove they exist. Ser Alliser Thorne was sent with this same task in the past (with a reanimated wight hand), but it didn't work.
Tyrion and Varys worried about whether you can take the Targ out of Dany---that's important. The show is giving us moral quandaries immediately followed by confounding moral quandaries. Dany being a near despot followed by a tender moment between her and Jorah.
Also, you seem to be missing the point about Jon's moment with Drogon. He is a Targaryen, the dragons are notoriously violent towards non-Targs. The dragon smelling Jon's blood is an important set up for him being one of the riders. I'd imagine he rides Rhaegal, since it's named after his father.
As far as Sam, he knows the Maesters are too far removed from the Wall to take things seriously. So, nab a couple of important books, take one last look at the astrolabe, and get the valuable knowledge up North where it can be used, and we can get another badass reunion. Also, since he is the only remaining Tarly, and since Jon has set a precedent for leaving the Watch, I'd imagine Samwell will retain his birthright to Horn Hill and maybe be the Warden of the Reach.
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RE: Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]
August 14, 2017 at 11:06 am
(August 14, 2017 at 2:26 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (August 13, 2017 at 10:18 pm)Jello Wrote: So Jon isn't even a bastard...
The clunkiest and most unnecessary bit of exposition of the entire series, perhaps? What are we supposed to do with that information, anyway? Oh, they got married - how romantic. So Jon Snow is not a son of some slut - he's a proper human being, because the parents he never knew were soooo in luv...
Are you being sarcastic? It means he's the rightful heir to the Iron Throne ya twat.
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