(August 17, 2017 at 3:14 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(August 17, 2017 at 3:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I am not afraid of Muslims in general. Not the ones in the US. But I am afraid of ISIS, and I hate the Islamic culture/sharia law in the middle eastern countries. I fear for my husband when he has to go out to Syria and fight the bastards.

I'm not personally afraid of ISIS, but yeah Islamic sharia law is just a list of human rights violations. Statistics from Pew Research Center show that a significant number of Muslims want sharia law or sympathize with radical causes.

I think Islam is 600 years behind the world and needs to change. Millions suffer every day because of it. This is where I separate from most liberals, who would call me Islamophobic for thinking that.

All religion is obsolete.

I think Muslims in America tend to be more moderate. American Muslims are more likely to accept gay marriage than Evangelicals. But obviously, in theocracies in the middle east things are terrible.

When people practice religion moderately and focus on the good scriptures there's not much problem, as far as I'm concerned, beyond the fact they believe something that isn't true.

I have only read a very small part of the Koran so I'm not prepared to make any comments on it.

(August 17, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: I think Muslims in America tend to be more moderate. American Muslims are more likely to accept gay marriage than Evangelicals. But obviously, in theocracies in the middle east things are terrible.

When people practice religion moderately and focus on the good scriptures there's not much problem, as far as I'm concerned, beyond the fact they believe something that isn't true.

I have only read a very small part of the Koran so I'm not prepared to make any comments on it.

Are you sure about that gay marriage thing? Gay marriage is absolutely not allowed in Islam (no matter how moderate) and is very much against their culture in general...

(August 17, 2017 at 8:10 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(August 17, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: I think Muslims in America tend to be more moderate. American Muslims are more likely to accept gay marriage than Evangelicals. But obviously, in theocracies in the middle east things are terrible.

When people practice religion moderately and focus on the good scriptures there's not much problem, as far as I'm concerned, beyond the fact they believe something that isn't true.

I have only read a very small part of the Koran so I'm not prepared to make any comments on it.

Are you sure about that gay marriage thing? Gay marriage is absolutely not allowed in Islam (no matter how moderate) and is very much against their culture in general...

I couldn't find the article specifically about gay marriage, but this is about acceptance of gays in general.
https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.co...76ea3d/amp

Yeah as far as I know, no Muslim church has married a gay couple

They don't immolate Muslim warlords with bacha bazis for some reason.

But it's correct, they aren't allowed to marry.

Islamic extremists are a threat not only to everyone else, but to their fellow Muslims as well.

My main problem with Islam, apart from the extremists, and this is true for a lot of groups, is that many move to another country and expect that society to change to suit them, instead of assimilating into their new country.

I had an argument online with a Muslim guy from Lebanon who moved to Australia and then spent hours ranting how Australian women were all whores with no values and that everyone was jealous of the virtue of Muslim women (this was when the Aussie government were discussing banning the burqa and the black thing that the Saudis make their women wear).

I asked him if he thought Islamic culture was superior to Australian culture, to which he answered "yes".

I then asked him why he was living in Australia instead of an Islamic country if we're so inferior to his culture? For that I was called racist.

But, of course, he's not representative of all Muslims and such attitudes are not exclusive to Muslims.

The white Christian conservatives and their Nazi followers are also a serious threat to our society. And not just American, but to many cultures around the world.

If he thinks Lebanon is so much better, then he should move the ef back.

(August 17, 2017 at 9:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If he thinks Lebanon is so much better, then he should move the ef back.

That was my point.

But apparently that was "racist".

(August 17, 2017 at 9:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yeah as far as I know, no Muslim church has married a gay couple

It apparently has happened before. That is kind of a good point though if the lay people say they accept gay marriage in a poll but the imam's usually won't perform it than that doesn't add up. Except maybe the lay people are more accepting than the Imams.

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows...yimam.html

Actually there are articles references Muslim's and gay marriage, but they don't seem to be trusted news sites.