If that's what makes you happy, who are we to judge?


Just be happy.

(August 21, 2017 at 4:35 am)ScienceAf Wrote: I, I know I've said things, many things about my views on god,

I do not have 100 percent certainty but I feel god, i sound like an idiot to more than the many of you, i know

There could be many gods, there could be another being, but when I feel my love I feel it go into me and a god.

It is not the God of Islam, Allah, for his morals contradict the so called benefits I humanity

I do not know the tales of the Torah, but it's just basics to capitalism, amirite? XD (I am capitalist, it was a joke, lmao)

I do however know a fair amount of the Christian God, nameless or not, I know the changes, the reforms.

Catholisim, the Bible is interpreted by the Church, the Church tells you what they think is good, (I, in New York assume things are pretty good)
Protastanism is your own individual study, I dont know why everyone must see the bible so differently in one denomination

Well, feelings are a complicated thing to understand and even harder to explain. But from a skeptical standpoint it is up to you to test your "god" to make sure there is no other explanation behind your feelings. I'd also suggest you to watch these videos

like, under the couch with a cat toy ??

There is nothing unusual about sensing the presence of things that do not really exist. Countless millions of other believers have felt or heard different gods. This is key: different god, same experience. This is a strong indication that believers are reporting some kind of psychological event that is common to the human mind rather than evidence of actually making contact with gods. The Hindus, Christians, Muslims, Jews, animists, Rastafarians, ancient Greeks, and so forth who claimed to have made contact with their gods cannot all be right about what they experienced. The only explanation that works is that most, if not all, of the believers who claim to have heard, seen, or felt a god are honestly mistaken about what they experienced. This does not mean that people who make these claims are lying, dumb, or crazy. It simply means they are human.

Like I said before if I watch some scary monster movie I may feel that that monster is around me and yet it's just a delusion. It's actually pretty easy to delude human brain and that's why scary movies are so popular.

(August 21, 2017 at 5:08 am)ScienceAf Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 4:56 am)chimp3 Wrote: You have a very active imagination.

Look, I'm not here to be converted, [...]

I'd like to convert you to clear thinking. That's a muddled mess you are writing there.

(August 21, 2017 at 5:24 am)chimp3 Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 5:21 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Yes, but I wish you do not disrespect my god, the same way i call people who dont identify as male or female whatever they want out of respect, however, like you, i would not want to bring those kind of things to the booth or schools

Disrespecting gods is a hobby of mine. Imaginary Tyrants and Daddy figures deserve no special status.

Why should I respect your views then?

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(August 21, 2017 at 5:26 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: If that's what makes you happy, who are we to judge?


Just be happy.

That's all that matters anyway,

I hope you're happy in life too.

(August 21, 2017 at 5:40 am)ScienceAf Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 5:24 am)chimp3 Wrote: Disrespecting gods is a hobby of mine. Imaginary Tyrants and Daddy figures deserve no special status.

Why should I respect your views then?

That's the point - You shouldn't respect views. If you find something wrong with them, express your criticism. Then there can be a discussion, and in the end hopefully either agreement or more clarity why there is disagreement.

(August 21, 2017 at 5:26 am)Aoi Magi Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 4:35 am)ScienceAf Wrote: I, I know I've said things, many things about my views on god,

I do not have 100 percent certainty but I feel god, i sound like an idiot to more than the many of you, i know

There could be many gods, there could be another being, but when I feel my love I feel it go into me and a god.

It is not the God of Islam, Allah, for his morals contradict the so called benefits I humanity

I do not know the tales of the Torah, but it's just basics to capitalism, amirite? XD (I am capitalist, it was a joke, lmao)

I do however know a fair amount of the Christian God, nameless or not, I know the changes, the reforms.

Catholisim, the Bible is interpreted by the Church, the Church tells you what they think is good, (I, in New York assume things are pretty good)
Protastanism is your own individual study, I dont know why everyone must see the bible so differently in one denomination

Well, feelings are a complicated thing to understand and even harder to explain. But from a skeptical standpoint it is up to you to test your "god" to make sure there is no other explanation behind your feelings. I'd also suggest you to watch these videos

I will view them later, but thank you, for the, advice? i dont know what to call it lmao, but thank you

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(August 21, 2017 at 5:34 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: There is nothing unusual about sensing the presence of things that do not really exist. Countless millions of other believers have felt or heard different gods. This is key: different god, same experience. This is a strong indication that believers are reporting some kind of psychological event that is common to the human mind rather than evidence of actually making contact with gods. The Hindus, Christians, Muslims, Jews, animists, Rastafarians, ancient Greeks, and so forth who claimed to have made contact with their gods cannot all be right about what they experienced. The only explanation that works is that most, if not all, of the believers who claim to have heard, seen, or felt a god are honestly mistaken about what they experienced. This does not mean that people who make these claims are lying, dumb, or crazy. It simply means they are human.

Like I said before if I watch some scary monster movie I may feel that that monster is around me and yet it's just a delusion. It's actually pretty easy to delude human brain and that's why scary movies are so popular.

I guess you're right, but what more do I know, atleast I feel happy with god and, it feels right, correct, it's everything i want and need,

I believe in god but surrender myself to the thought that he may not exist, after all, I'm just me

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(August 21, 2017 at 5:39 am)Alex K Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 5:08 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Look, I'm not here to be converted, [...]

I'd like to convert you to  clear thinking. That's a muddled mess you are writing there.

How am I writing a muddled mess? I just wanted people to know what I think

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(August 21, 2017 at 5:41 am)Alex K Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 5:40 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Why should I respect your views then?

That's the point - You shouldn't respect views. If you find something wrong with them, express your criticism. Then there can be a discussion, and in the end hopefully either agreement or more clarity why there is disagreement.

Views and people are different, I dont respect the view that there are more than two genders, but if a person asks me to call them what they want, i will, from time to time i will express my criticism when appropriate, that's what normal people do

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Here's something for you guys, I dont believe god hand sculpted everything, I believe he just allowed the universe to unfold

(August 21, 2017 at 5:40 am)ScienceAf Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 5:24 am)chimp3 Wrote: Disrespecting gods is a hobby of mine. Imaginary Tyrants and Daddy figures deserve no special status.

Why should I respect your views then?

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You do not need to respect my views. You are on an atheist forum. Asking for respect towards a god is just inviting mockery. If you take personal offense then perhaps I was right... Your god is really your own imagination. If your god is real then it can deal with me personally.

(August 21, 2017 at 5:48 am)chimp3 Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 5:40 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Why should I respect your views then?

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You do not need to respect my views. You are on an atheist forum. Asking for respect towards a god is just inviting mockery. If you take personal offense then perhaps I was right... Your god is really your own imagination. If your god is real then it can deal with me personally.

Well no, I ask for respect because that's what normal people do and get in return,

I respect many members of the athiest fourms because, not only have I been irrelgious myself but these people have helped me through tough times, like coming out as athiest,

Everyone here deserves my upmost respect, I believe i should get some in return