Chimp, he may not be talking about the God who genocided all of his creations because he made man faulty in the first place. Nah, that's one's an asshole.
ScAF. Tell us again which god you believe in. hehe

Hey SAF.

You're young yet, in that age where you're trying to figure a lot of things out, a whole lot more than god/which god/no god.

Just keep investigating and learning. If you're going with christianity I suggest that you read the entire bible. If you want some skeptical views try: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

I doubt you've come to a final decision, but if you have that's fine. You and I will just have to disagree.

Maybe your choice will end up being just a god, not necessarily tied to any major religion. Or if tied to religion you'll take a pick and choose mind set, that's my wife's position. We call her cafeteria catholic. 

I'm going to ask and don't be offended but is this change tied to a girl?

Up date us as things evolve. Good luck, be happy.

(August 21, 2017 at 5:40 am)ScienceAf Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 5:24 am)chimp3 Wrote: Disrespecting gods is a hobby of mine. Imaginary Tyrants and Daddy figures deserve no special status.

Why should I respect your views then?

Because chimp isn't disrespecting your views, he's disrespecting your god. Unless you choose to make it personal, the two are not related.

Respect is earned, not demanded. If a god is offended, it needs to deal with that by itself. Have it come here and tell us in person.

Besides which, any god that takes offence at such petty disrespect is a petty god and not worthy of the title.

(August 21, 2017 at 6:16 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Hey SAF.

You're young yet, in that age where you're trying to figure a lot of things out, a whole lot more than god/which god/no god.

Just keep investigating and learning. If you're going with christianity I suggest that you read the entire bible. If you want some skeptical views try: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

I doubt you've come to a final decision, but if you have that's fine. You and I will just have to disagree.

Maybe your choice will end up being just a god, not necessarily tied to any major religion. Or if tied to religion you'll take a pick and choose mind set, that's my wife's position. We call her cafeteria catholic. 

I'm going to ask and don't be offended but is this change tied to a girl?

Up date us as things evolve. Good luck, be happy.

Nah, not a girl, I did try looking into it once because of a girl but that's not at all why I becam ewhat I did for the time being,

Infact I got in a fight with this girl recently, but eitherway

I do have to figure things out on my own and i'll admit that yeah, I could be wrong, but there's no telling, I would rather pick and choose my mindset,  while retaining some sort of catholic, idk how to explain it.

Thank you, I will be happy,

I appreciate that you respect my choices and would allow us to disagree without issue,

(August 21, 2017 at 5:54 am)ScienceAf Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 5:52 am)chimp3 Wrote: How did I disrespect you? I only mocked your god.

Well, if I was "agender" although it does not exist, would you call me "agender"?
You would do that out of respect

I dont go to Muslims and outright say "You're god is this or that, or a deamening term" unless they ask me too.

Don't you think there's a difference between how a person identifies themselves, and truth claims about the universe?

(August 21, 2017 at 6:23 am)Cyberman Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 5:40 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Why should I respect your views then?

Because chimp isn't disrespecting your views, he's disrespecting your god. Unless you choose to make it personal, the two are not related.

Respect is earned, not demanded. If a god is offended, it needs to deal with that by itself. Have it come here and tell us in person.

Besides which, any god that takes offence at such petty disrespect is a petty god and not worthy of the title.

Look, I dont care, I wouldnt want my mom being disrespected, nor would i want my god,

My mom might not take offense to it but I do,
I have my reasons and you have yours for your beliefs but we need to put them aside

i wont ever tell an irreliogus, "hey, where's your morals"
and an irreligous shouldnt tell me "Hey, where's your sky daddy"

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(August 21, 2017 at 6:25 am)Alex K Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 5:54 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Well, if I was "agender" although it does not exist, would you call me "agender"?
You would do that out of respect

I dont go to Muslims and outright say "You're god is this or that, or a deamening term" unless they ask me too.

Don't you think there's a difference between how a person identifies themselves, and truth claims about the universe?

I'm not forcing you to think it's the truth, that's up to you,

I dont go up to Creationists, Evolutionists or whatever and just tell them their claims are false whenever it's brought up,

I say my views when I have a reason

(August 21, 2017 at 6:26 am)ScienceAf Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 6:23 am)Cyberman Wrote: Because chimp isn't disrespecting your views, he's disrespecting your god. Unless you choose to make it personal, the two are not related.

Respect is earned, not demanded. If a god is offended, it needs to deal with that by itself. Have it come here and tell us in person.

Besides which, any god that takes offence at such petty disrespect is a petty god and not worthy of the title.

Look, I dont care, I wouldnt want my mom being disrespected, nor would i want my god,

My mom might not take offense to it but I do,
I have my reasons and you have yours for your beliefs but we need to put them aside

i wont ever tell an irreliogus, "hey, where's your morals"
and an irreligous shouldnt tell me "Hey, where's your sky daddy"

If you asked me "Where's your morals?' I would just call that a debate. I would answer you and so would others. Morality without gods is a common debate on atheist forums.

(August 21, 2017 at 6:26 am)ScienceAf Wrote:

(August 21, 2017 at 6:23 am)Cyberman Wrote: Because chimp isn't disrespecting your views, he's disrespecting your god. Unless you choose to make it personal, the two are not related.

Respect is earned, not demanded. If a god is offended, it needs to deal with that by itself. Have it come here and tell us in person.

Besides which, any god that takes offence at such petty disrespect is a petty god and not worthy of the title.

Look, I dont care, I wouldnt want my mom being disrespected, nor would i want my god,

My mom might not take offense to it but I do,
I have my reasons and you have yours for your beliefs but we need to put them aside

i wont ever tell an irreliogus, "hey, where's your morals"
and an irreligous shouldnt tell me "Hey, where's your sky daddy"

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(August 21, 2017 at 6:25 am)Alex K Wrote: Don't you think there's a difference between how a person identifies themselves, and truth claims about the universe?

I'm not forcing you to think it's the truth, that's up to you,

That's impossible anyway...

Quote:I dont go up to Creationists, Evolutionists or whatever and just tell them their claims are false whenever it's brought up,

Of course not in everyday life, that would be very rude and impractical. But you posted a weird statement on how you feel God now on an atheist forum. What on earth did you expect?

(August 21, 2017 at 6:26 am)ScienceAf Wrote: I dont go up to Creationists, Evolutionists or whatever and just tell them their claims are false whenever it's brought up,

You would be wise to ridicule creatards ...most of their beliefs can be categorically proven to be false. Or else you are making allowances for their delusions.Not good for you or them. For Evolutionists, well, we don't make no such claim. We have 47 pentasquillion non contradictory examples of why the theory of evolution is 100% robust.
You just need to find one example which contradicts it and the Nobel is yours.

At the end of the day, our opinions are usually based on science. Are yours? Will someone upset your delicate God one day and you hurt them in anger? Because defending God's honour is a noble thing to do? It's a slippery slope my friend.

If I just straight up had a dig at your mom, that could be disrespectful. And plain rude.

If you used the concept of your mom as a weapon against me, and I retaliate, that's something else again. And like I say, it's not personal against you unless you make it so. Love the sinner, hate the sin, remember? Why aren't we allowed the same latitude?