Unfortunately, you got yourself an all new cult of fanatics last November which is just as destructive...

(September 4, 2017 at 5:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41150792

Quote:More than half in UK are non-religious, suggests survey

Quote:Last year 53% of people described themselves as having "no religion", in a survey of 2,942 adults by the National Centre for Social Research.

Among those aged between 18 and 25, the proportion was higher at 71%.

And since the young are saying "fuck it" and only the old fucks believe in the holy horseshit, things are looking real good in Britain!

Congratulations.

Do you really mean it Min? You really want Americans to dump religion like Europeans have? Well here's how you can help: Stop being such an asshole.

I'm not saying you should stop criticizing religious belief in a logical way. Indeed, you should continue to do that. But your broad, abrasive, personal attacks against believers is counter-productive.

Think about it. If I want to manipulate you to do my bidding, how am I most likely to succeed? I might try to appeal to what I perceive as your strengths: I might make logical, reasonable, practical arguments to bolster my position. Or I might say, "Hey, you stupid cock-sucker, you're a fucking idiot!" Which of those two approaches are most likely to get through to you?

This is a very complicated problem and it will take complicated solutions. You really need to stop thinking of believers as idiots. They're not!!!! They're brains are wired differently from the way my brain and your brain is wired. But there are theists who are smarter than you or I.

We are all flawed. Research has indicated that there is an emotional filter through which all information must flow through before it reaches the logical section of our brain. It is physiologically impossible for us to be purely logical beings like the Vulcans of Star Trek (though even those fictional beings admit that they are not truly free of emotions but simply manage them).

I am no savant at communications - far from it. While I have never been professionally diagnosed, I strongly suspect I am at least mildly autistic. I have many of the characteristics associated with Asperger's Syndrome. While I have great empathy towards the weak such as animals or outcast humans, I have a total lack of the ability to bond in the usual way. My parents and other family members have little emotional attachment to me. I have a biological daughter who means little to me, emotionally. That's an abnormality. I don't know how to address it. I am abnormal in that way. I am logical enough to recognize it but I cannot correct (assuming it is something which needs to be corrected) it.

I don't even know exactly what I'm talking about here (I'm drunk) but I'm convinced that the atheist vs. theist conversation is NOT going be solved by the argument of who is smarter. Indeed, that notional seems very juvenal to me. It's just more complicated than that.

(September 4, 2017 at 7:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: In a way, you are correct.  It's a sign of the end times for Christianity.

Probably - but the eventual victor will be Islam, not atheism.

AMEN to the OP!  Woops.   
The Earth's population will eventually realize that deities do not exist.  If we don't nuke each other first.
It's still possible that the more desperate of the "imaginary friends" crowd might kill each other off.  I can imagine the more rabid of the xtian funditards over here grabbing their shotguns and hunting ISIS ass.  They'd be fantasizing a glorious win, returning as heroes and killing all the atheists.  (ha!)
     After all, they would just be following in the footsteps of their genocidal gawd, who is supposed to be coming back to slaughter all the unbelievers.  They love the passage in Revelation where Jeebus comes back and slaughters all the unbelievers with his sword.  The blood will supposedly rise to the level of the horses' bridles.  Yay Jeebus!


I think I would prefer a world without such gory-licious imagery.  Where people who hold different views are also considered human.  Wouldn't that be nice?

alpha male Wrote:

The Valkyrie Wrote:In a way, you are correct.  It's a sign of the end times for Christianity.

Probably - but the eventual victor will be Islam, not atheism.

Not in the USA. In no scenario that's even slightly realistic does it play out that way.

(September 5, 2017 at 1:46 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(September 4, 2017 at 7:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: In a way, you are correct.  It's a sign of the end times for Christianity.

Probably - but the eventual victor will be Islam, not atheism.

The extremity of your cognitive powers has been exhausted by recognizing your silly and vile little world is ending. What will come after is far beyond your cognitive powers to ever grasp much less predict.

(September 5, 2017 at 1:46 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(September 4, 2017 at 7:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: In a way, you are correct.  It's a sign of the end times for Christianity.

Probably - but the eventual victor will be Islam, not atheism.

They are just as fucking stupid as you are.

(September 4, 2017 at 6:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(September 4, 2017 at 6:39 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  Just remember this is a sign of the end times a prophecy 2000 years old and coming true before your ever blind eyes.

GC

Yeah, it's about 1950 years overdue, since Jesus said it would happen in the lifetimes of the people he was talking to.

We've been over the verses you are thinking about for years and it' been explained, why can't you learn, I thought atheist were suppose to be smart, guess I'm wrong.

GC

Maybe we didn't like your explanation. Those people he was talking to tasted death, and the world kept spinning. Jesus told people to abandon their families, and get rid of everything they owned, because he didn't think they'd be needing them again in the near future. It didn't turn out well for them for the remainder of their lives.

(September 5, 2017 at 2:46 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(September 5, 2017 at 1:46 pm)alpha male Wrote: Probably - but the eventual victor will be Islam, not atheism.

They are just as fucking stupid as you are.

I'd say muslims world wide are on average less natively stupid than the christians in this country.