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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
October 19, 2017 at 1:20 pm
(October 19, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (October 19, 2017 at 1:00 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: So now geologists perform their work for the purpose of disproving a story in Genesis?
The bullshit never ends with you, does it? I don't recall saying anything of the sort.
Not explicitly, but suggesting that geologists posit ocean floor uplift as a reason to explain the presence of fossils on mountaintops (as opposed to the "Biblical flood explanation") suggests an agenda on their part.
News flash: Da Vinci figured that one out quite a while ago. At least try to catch up with the 15th-16th Centuries.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
October 19, 2017 at 1:38 pm
(October 19, 2017 at 1:20 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: (October 19, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I don't recall saying anything of the sort.
Not explicitly, but suggesting that geologists posit ocean floor uplift as a reason to explain the presence of fossils on mountaintops (as opposed to the "Biblical flood explanation") suggests an agenda on their part.
News flash: Da Vinci figured that one out quite a while ago. At least try to catch up with the 15th-16th Centuries.
The timeline initially given for the formation of the Andes shows it was calculated to fit a preconception.
You guys proclaim that "science is self-correcting" as if it's a virtue... It's only a virtue to something that's unreliable.
Truth needs no self-correction, what is true will ALWAYS remain true.
I believe in the truth of the Bible hence why I requested an example of where science disproves it, so far no dice.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
October 19, 2017 at 1:39 pm
(October 19, 2017 at 12:41 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: It is known that all species of cats (for example) that exist today, have a common ancestor.
This shows that all that was required on the ark was two cats, not EVERY species of cat that existed, so that reduces the number of animals required significantly.
Have you just shot yourself in the foot? I thought creationists refused to accept evolution.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
October 19, 2017 at 1:45 pm
(October 19, 2017 at 1:39 pm)Succubus Wrote: Have you just shot yourself in the foot? I thought creationists refused to accept evolution.
Evolution has nothing to do with creation.
(February 18, 2016 at 3:17 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Evolution is a fact in so much that each creature evolves after its "kind", cats evolve from cats and dogs from dogs, But the idea that we all evolved from some primordial soup is pure conjecture.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
October 19, 2017 at 1:48 pm
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2017 at 1:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Evolution works, you see, up to some murkily defined point in contradiction with observed results in the lab and field..because magic book.
If common descent is pure conjecture..what does that make all this "god" bullshit? The deluge falls well below the bar of pure conjecture no matter how one defines it. It didn't happen.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
October 19, 2017 at 1:49 pm
What did birds evolve from?
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
October 19, 2017 at 1:52 pm
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(October 19, 2017 at 1:38 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Truth needs no self-correction, what is true will ALWAYS remain true.
I believe in the truth of the Bible hence why I requested an example of where science disproves it, so far no dice.
-and the day we discovered the undeniable truth, forever and ever..about everything...was a tuesday a few thousand years ago.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
October 19, 2017 at 2:00 pm
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
October 19, 2017 at 2:00 pm
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(October 19, 2017 at 1:38 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: You guys proclaim that "science is self-correcting" as if it's a virtue...
It is.
Quote:It's only a virtue to something that's unreliable.
I'll bet there's not a single area of your life in which you characterize it as such, except insofar as it touches on your reading of the Bible. In any case, 'unreliable' is your characterization. The correct words you're groping for are 'tentative' and 'provisional'.
Quote:Truth needs no self-correction, what is true will ALWAYS remain true.
Science is an ongoing pursuit, and new things are learned all the time. The fact that you don't understand the provisional nature of science and instead cling to an ancient book as the last word on any number of subjects isn't anyone else's problem. I assure you, the scientific community gives less than a shit about your opinion.
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RE: Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
October 19, 2017 at 2:01 pm
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Quote:I believe in the truth of the Bible hence why I requested an example of where science disproves it, so far no dice.
Accept all the clear examples we have given.
Quote:You guys proclaim that "science is self-correcting" as if it's a virtue...
It is a self critical system will always have less of a chance of being wrong then one that arrogantly proclaims it's always right .
Quote: It's only a virtue to something that's unreliable.
Nope it's a virtue to something pursuing knowledge and understanding
Quote:Truth needs no self-correction, what is true will ALWAYS remain true
That does not sound like truth that sounds like dogma posing as truth. Which people like you need to conjure up apologetic s.
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