(October 26, 2017 at 3:56 am)Lutrinae Wrote:

(October 26, 2017 at 3:54 am)Adventurer Wrote: That all makes no sense - 'because they are heterosexual'. It leaves me unanswered and still pondering.

That's your problem, not mine.

If you wish for better clarification, ask more questions.

How can heterosexual men be sexually gratified by someone they perceive as 'inferior' and 'less attractive', which in this case, is women? Can't they delight in anything else if not for procreation? Orgasm amongst the receivers is always complemented by the delightful physique, personality and looks amongst the gratifiers.

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(October 26, 2017 at 3:57 am)ignoramus Wrote: Hetero oppression towards women is the SOP in most muslim countries ...Perfectly OK by them...
Why do others eg: in the western world do it? Not gay. Probably insecure/frustrated by being conditioned to believe that they are superior and are proven wrong every step of the way...

and also garden variety assholes ...

What is SOP?

(October 26, 2017 at 4:00 am)Adventurer Wrote: How can heterosexual men be sexually gratified by someone they perceive as 'inferior' and 'less attractive', which in this case, is women? Can't they delight in anything else if not for procreation? Orgasm amongst the receivers is always complemented by the delightful physique, personality and looks amongst the gratifiers.

I'm not heterosexual, for one, but even I understand that heterosexual men enjoy heterosexual sex with women no matter what they think of those women.

I'm not certain where your "less attractive" comment is coming from; could you explain that further?

From my understanding, heterosexual men engage in sex with women because they do delight in how it feels; thus, that question of yours makes no sense.

I am uncertain how to respond to your orgasm sentence.

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(October 26, 2017 at 4:05 am)Lutrinae Wrote:

(October 26, 2017 at 4:00 am)Adventurer Wrote: How can heterosexual men be sexually gratified by someone they perceive as 'inferior' and 'less attractive', which in this case, is women? Can't they delight in anything else if not for procreation? Orgasm amongst the receivers is always complemented by the delightful physique, personality and looks amongst the gratifiers.

I'm not heterosexual, for one, but even I understand that heterosexual men enjoy heterosexual sex with women no matter what they think of those women.

I'm not certain where your "less attractive" comment is coming from; could you explain that further?

From my understanding, heterosexual men engage in sex with women because they do delight in how it feels; thus, that question of yours makes no sense.

I am uncertain how to respond to your orgasm sentence.

I'm referring to heterosexual men who are sexist and misogynistic towards women, thereby labelling them 'inferior' and 'less attractive'.

A man can be sexually attracted to a woman’s body even if he doesn’t care about her mind.
A man can also feel sexually stimulated by feeling powerful over a woman. A lot of people enjoy being dominant and it gives them pleasure. Doesn’t make them gay.

(October 26, 2017 at 4:07 am)Adventurer Wrote: I'm referring to heterosexual men who are sexist and misogynistic towards women, thereby labelling them 'inferior' and 'less attractive'.

I'm still confused how you derive "less attractive" from sexist and misogynistic.

(October 26, 2017 at 4:08 am)J a c k Wrote: A man can be sexually attracted to a woman’s body even if he doesn’t care about her mind.
A man can also feel sexually stimulated by feeling powerful over a woman. A lot of people enjoy being dominant and it gives them pleasure. Doesn’t make them gay.

Really? This is like being totally insensitive and numb but have a burning heart to please the other - that's opposite to receiving - that's definitely men trying to gratify the women. I'm the type who likes to 'absorb' sexually. So this doesn't make sense, sorry.

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(October 26, 2017 at 4:09 am)Lutrinae Wrote:

(October 26, 2017 at 4:07 am)Adventurer Wrote: I'm referring to heterosexual men who are sexist and misogynistic towards women, thereby labelling them 'inferior' and 'less attractive'.

I'm still confused how you derive "less attractive" from sexist and misogynistic.

Well, looks and attractions are not definitive factors of sexism - sexism also includes factors about one's personality and intelligence, not to mention many other things. So, if men perceive women as 'inferior', definitely they are less attracted to them and this affects their orgasmic performance by virtue of receiving gratification.

(October 26, 2017 at 4:12 am)Adventurer Wrote:

(October 26, 2017 at 4:08 am)J a c k Wrote: A man can be sexually attracted to a woman’s body even if he doesn’t care about her mind.
A man can also feel sexually stimulated by feeling powerful over a woman. A lot of people enjoy being dominant and it gives them pleasure. Doesn’t make them gay.

Really? This is like being totally insensitive and numb but have a burning heart to please the other - that's opposite to receiving - that's definitely men trying to gratify the women. I'm the type who likes to 'absorb' sexually. So this doesn't make sense, sorry.

What? Who said they have sex to please the other? Yes, they’re insensitive, and they can have insensitive sex.

(October 26, 2017 at 4:12 am)Adventurer Wrote: So, if men perceive women as 'inferior', definitely they are less attracted to them and this affects their orgasmic performance by virtue of receiving gratification.

Incorrect.

Look at the recent news story of Weinstein; he viewed women as inferior, but he also viewed them as attractive, or else he wouldn't have sexually assaulted them or placed them in the roles they got in movies.

When a man rapes a woman, he’s not trying to gratify her. He’s using her. I doubt it’s because he’s gay.

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That was also sort of a ninja, there, kit lol