(November 5, 2017 at 4:06 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(November 5, 2017 at 4:00 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That would depend on the nature of the Being.  If the Abrahamic god created the universe, free will is impossible.

Boru

Not really the conclusion follows from the premise.  If people get traits of what the being is wrong, that is their problem.

No, it is your problem. Your claim is that you have determined the traits of that which caused the big bang. Ergo, it is your problem to demonstrate that you are right. And you can't do that.

(November 5, 2017 at 3:29 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There are some low people but you are next to new level of low.

So I shared I see a doctor and have bipolar, schizophrenia, and other mental illnesses, in the past even before as non-Muslim, and you know I been seeing a doctor, but want to belittle me because of my illness.

Since you work with the material paradigm that our brain defines who we are, you can't understand how I have fractured mind, but still reason better than you.

I got A+ in a logic philosophy course, I get A+ in computer science courses I take, I don't give a damn that my mind is fractured, I will manipulate it and heal it through will and strength, and that will and strength is no doubt from God and his help is ever with me.

Now, why don't you go concentrate on some material pleasure or go conjecture like you always do or go try to insult another Theist? Run along now.

You may have seen a doctor but I doubt you paid much attention. Rarely, if ever, do bipolar and schizophrenia coexist in an individual. However, untreated bipolar can result in what appears to be schizophrenic behavior. If that's the case then you have schizoaffective disorder.

(November 5, 2017 at 4:18 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(November 5, 2017 at 3:29 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There are some low people but you are next to new level of low.

So I shared I see a doctor and have bipolar, schizophrenia, and other mental illnesses, in the past even before as non-Muslim, and you know I been seeing a doctor, but want to belittle me because of my illness.

Since you work with the material paradigm that our brain defines who we are, you can't understand how I have fractured mind, but still reason better than you.

I got A+ in a logic philosophy course, I get A+ in computer science courses I take, I don't give a damn that my mind is fractured, I will manipulate it and heal it through will and strength, and that will and strength is no doubt from God and his help is ever with me.

Now, why don't you go concentrate on some material pleasure or go conjecture like you always do or go try to insult another Theist? Run along now.

You may have seen a doctor but I doubt you paid much attention. Rarely, if ever, do bipolar and schizophrenia coexist in an individual. However, untreated bipolar can result in what appears to be schizophrenic behavior. If that's the case then you have schizoaffective disorder.

I asked precisely about this, and there is disagreement about schizoaffective disorders definition, if it is bipolar with schizophrenic behaviour or something in between or straight out having both. Three doctors told me this.  In fact, the new way to approach this seems they are going to be leaving "labeling" in groups, since each illness is vasty different.  The labeling does not help which treatment is necessary. Some are going through more of identity crisis, some more of mood swings, up and down, some both, some have abnormal experiences. 

As for me, I know the demons that I saw, I saw them take over my soul, and I know what I experienced before that from the good vision of the noble exalted souls. I didn't start with mood disorders and it was untreated, I know what I have, and the doctor told me at the end labelling it is not important but just treating it.

And I know my affliction inside out, better than outsider perspective. I understand how fast my brain goes when I am off medications, I understand I need them, but I know the spiritual challenges of being possessed better than most people, and most people with schizophrenia are possessed and need to fight their demons.

I know I lost a lot of brain mass, but I know I can regrow in the brain, even if the brain will never be "normal."

I know my illness inside out, stop with this belittling a person because they have mentail illness.

A mental illness doesn't mean a person can't know God exists. It doesn't mean they can't find the true religion either. None of that is implied.

I agree the future doesn't exist before it exists. That doesn't even make any sense. The future is by definition not something that exists (present tense) presently. Only the present is.

The future is by definition what WILL exist, or in other words, what will be present/the present. It does not exist. It WILL exist but when we say it will exist all we really mean is that it will become present. The future describes something that by definition does not exist yet.

Likewise, the past does not exist but did previously exist, but all we mean by that is that it existed and was present at the time when it was the present.

And the amount of times relativistic theories about science and all times existing equally is brought up is an annoying red herring (Not to mention that saying the past and future exist now just as much as the present is identical to saying that all there is is the present (if the past and future really exist now then they're not the past and the future they're the present. The past has definitionally already passed and the future is definitionally yet to come)). Science only deals with the observable phenomenal world and tests our experience of time: science cannot and doesn't test Kant's thing-in-itself. The philosophy of time is about time itself whereas science only deals with our experience of time.

(November 5, 2017 at 3:52 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Ok at the very least, if free-will, therefore the universe was created by a being of will and power. Is pretty good right?

Any other premise?

Lol, no.  The conclusion does not follow from the premise.  I can envision a universe in which free will is the result of random fluctuations of quanta.

Boru

Yay! Another wall of text, therefore gawd.

(November 5, 2017 at 4:29 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: A mental illness doesn't mean a person can't know God exists. It doesn't mean they can't find the true religion either. None of that is implied.

What makes you think that any god exists? Or that any true religion exists?

(November 5, 2017 at 4:29 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(November 5, 2017 at 4:18 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: You may have seen a doctor but I doubt you paid much attention. Rarely, if ever, do bipolar and schizophrenia coexist in an individual. However, untreated bipolar can result in what appears to be schizophrenic behavior. If that's the case then you have schizoaffective disorder.

I asked precisely about this, and there is disagreement about schizoaffective disorders definition, if it is bipolar with schizophrenic behaviour or something in between or straight out having both. Three doctors told me this.  In fact, the new way to approach this seems they are going to be leaving "labeling" in groups, since each illness is vasty different.  The labeling does not help which treatment is necessary. Some are going through more of identity crisis, some more of mood swings, up and down, some both, some have abnormal experiences. 

As for me, I know the demons that I saw, I saw them take over my soul, and I know what I experienced before that from the good vision of the noble exalted souls. I didn't start with mood disorders and it was untreated, I know what I have, and the doctor told me at the end labelling it is not important but just treating it.

And I know my affliction inside out, better than outsider perspective. I understand how fast my brain goes when I am off medications, I understand I need them, but I know the spiritual challenges of being possessed better than most people, and most people with schizophrenia are possessed and need to fight their demons.

I know I lost a lot of brain mass, but I know I can regrow in the brain, even if the brain will never be "normal."

I know my illness inside out, stop with this belittling a person because they have mentail illness.

A mental illness doesn't mean a person can't know God exists. It doesn't mean they can't find the true religion either. None of that is implied.

I'll go with the DSM 5 definition. 

What treatment/medications are you receiving?

Lost a lot of brain mass from what?

(November 5, 2017 at 4:42 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Lost a lot of brain mass from what?

Psychosis.

I got to study, midterm tomorrow.

(November 5, 2017 at 4:47 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(November 5, 2017 at 4:42 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Lost a lot of brain mass from what?

Psychosis.

I got to study, midterm tomorrow.

Psychosis is a symptom, not a disease and it does not cause "loss of brain mass".