(November 10, 2017 at 12:22 pm)alpha male Wrote: I mean come on emjay, 21 people - including you - kudo'd a post which says:

Quote:The converts though do not deserve pity so much as contempt because they have essentially outsourced their morality.

I find you contemptible - let's go play a game together doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

(November 9, 2017 at 1:34 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So much for the rule against wild generalizations...

Theism. Not theists. There is a difference.

(November 10, 2017 at 10:34 am)alpha male Wrote:

(November 10, 2017 at 10:27 am)Mathilda Wrote: Quite possibly, which would explain why some theists have found this thread so insulting yet few have actually tried countering what I have said and largely just dismissed it as strawman arguments and wild generalisations.

There's not much you can say about unsubstantiated conjecture. That's why I've approached by using counterexamples to the implied corollary.

Counter claims yes, but claims are just that and you have NO evidence for what you claim.

We cant stop you from believing in the super natural, but don't pretend you have evidence for such, you don't.

(November 10, 2017 at 1:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Counter claims yes, but claims are just that and you have NO evidence for what you claim.

People complain about their personal lives all the time here, and they're usually not the theists. Do you really need me to dig up examples? I was trying not to put particular people on the spot.

(November 10, 2017 at 1:31 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(November 10, 2017 at 1:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Counter claims yes, but claims are just that and you have NO evidence for what you claim.

People complain about their personal lives all the time here, and they're usually not the theists. Do you really need me to dig up examples? I was trying not to put particular people on the spot.

Probably not a wise or courteous choice either way brian may answer.

(November 10, 2017 at 11:57 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: There's no point in reporting it because the mods have seen it already. Some even kudosed it, so that's why I don't think it's against the rules. I don't quite understand why it's not though.

It is "theism" in the OP. If it were "Theists are childish" that would fall against the rules. And the OP does constitute a discussion starter, and worded well.

I would appreciate everyone in this thread to actually adress the points, instead telling the mods how to do their jobs and complaining about the amount of kudos it got.

I mean atheist forums. Surely theism is going to be criticized.

I hope that clears your mind.

(November 10, 2017 at 1:36 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:

(November 10, 2017 at 1:31 pm)alpha male Wrote: People complain about their personal lives all the time here, and they're usually not the theists. Do you really need me to dig up examples? I was trying not to put particular people on the spot.

Probably not a wise or courteous choice either way brian may answer.

NSS - it was a rhetorical question.

(November 9, 2017 at 4:50 pm)Whateverist Wrote:

(November 9, 2017 at 1:34 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So much for the rule against wild generalizations...

The title has a slight ring of condescension but the OP was substantive I thought.

Not in the least. The entire OP was attempting to describe the moral, emotional, and intellectual development of ALL theists without qualification. As such it is a thinly disguised blanket condemnation of ALL theists.

(November 10, 2017 at 1:53 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(November 9, 2017 at 4:50 pm)Whateverist Wrote: The title has a slight ring of condescension but the OP was substantive I thought.

Not in the least. The entire OP was attempting to describe the moral, emotional, and intellectual development of ALL theists without qualification. As such it is a thinly disguised blanket condemnation of ALL theists.

Absolutely.

(November 10, 2017 at 1:19 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(November 10, 2017 at 12:22 pm)alpha male Wrote: I mean come on emjay, 21 people - including you - kudo'd a post which says:


I find you contemptible - let's go play a game together doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I don't have to agree with every single thing in a post to kudos it, but I found it an interesting post, a new take, and I'm sorry to say... for your sake since you are so hurt by it... I agree to a large part with the logic of it; that looking at it from that angle, it's an interesting way of describing the psychological dynamics, wholesale, of religion, re indoctrination. As regards to converts, okay maybe it's a bit judgmental/superior to be talking about pity and contempt, but it still makes an interesting point.