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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
November 18, 2017 at 4:00 am
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(November 17, 2017 at 8:16 pm)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: Does anyone else see this as rape?
Hey it's all in the family: Jesus, being also the Holy Ghost, must have had intercourse with his own mother in order to produce himself as the son. She being the daughter of God and Jesus being the son of God, she was also his sister.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
November 18, 2017 at 4:38 am
hmm, so even without the rape/gang-rape bit:
God age (infinity) + Mary's age (12-14) => pedophilia
Holy spirit's status (dead) + Mary's status (alive) => necrophilia
God (father of all) + Mary (God's descendant) => Incest
Jesus's age (0) + Mary's age (12-14) => reverse hebephilia ???
Jesus (Son) + Mary (Mother) => Incest
Mary (married) + God (confusing) => extramarital affair
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
November 18, 2017 at 5:08 am
(November 18, 2017 at 12:59 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The story goes that Mary gave consent to a pregnancy by a miraculous, non sexual conception. Nothing about this is rape in any sense of the word. But you knew that.
How old was Mary again?
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
November 18, 2017 at 5:08 am
Older than Mohammad's bride.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
November 18, 2017 at 5:28 am
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2017 at 5:32 am by Bow Before Zeus.)
(November 18, 2017 at 3:45 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That was normal age for having kids and marriage back then bc they died so much earlier. They matured much faster and were considered adults by that time. She was engaged already when she became pregnant.
Also, you're clearly a troll. And not a funny one, unfortunately.
Just because the facts are disagreeable with you does not mean you should label me unfairly. Address the facts of the matter please.
(November 18, 2017 at 4:00 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (November 17, 2017 at 8:16 pm)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: Does anyone else see this as rape?
Hey it's all in the family: Jesus, being also the Holy Ghost, must have had intercourse with his own mother in order to produce himself as the son. She being the daughter of God and Jesus being the son of God, she was also his sister.
I get it. It's complicated!
(November 18, 2017 at 4:38 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: hmm, so even without the rape/gang-rape bit:
God age (infinity) + Mary's age (12-14) => pedophilia
Holy spirit's status (dead) + Mary's status (alive) => necrophilia
God (father of all) + Mary (God's descendant) => Incest
Jesus's age (0) + Mary's age (12-14) => reverse hebephilia ???
Jesus (Son) + Mary (Mother) => Incest
Mary (married) + God (confusing) => extramarital affair
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I hadn't realised just how complicated this was! You've just gone and opened up the whole can of worms now!
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
November 18, 2017 at 6:08 am
(November 18, 2017 at 12:59 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The story goes that Mary gave consent to a pregnancy by a miraculous, non sexual conception. Nothing about this is rape in any sense of the word. But you knew that.
The story goes? Who wrote this story and where can I find it?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
November 18, 2017 at 6:38 am
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Actually, in Luke, when the angel appeared to Mary and told her that she would conceive a child by the Holy Spirit (not that she already had), Mary's reply was, 'I am the Lord's servant. May your word to me be fulfilled.'
Hard to make the case for rape when consent is pretty clear.
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(November 18, 2017 at 6:08 am)Succubus Wrote: (November 18, 2017 at 12:59 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The story goes that Mary gave consent to a pregnancy by a miraculous, non sexual conception. Nothing about this is rape in any sense of the word. But you knew that.
The story goes? Who wrote this story and where can I find it?
No one knows who wrote it, but you can find it in either the first or second chapter of Luke.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
November 18, 2017 at 7:24 am
(November 17, 2017 at 8:16 pm)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: I can see it as the news headlines some 2,000 years ago!
But seriously, both my daughters went to Anglican-based very expensive private schools. Ok, don't ask questions it just happened, ok? There were secular options but I blame myself for not enrolling them there. It is what it is.
Anyway, this particular school had sex education classes for the students but also had religious classes as well - of course. Some of the brighter ones put 2 & 2 together and since the "immaculate conception"
The immaculate conception refers to the conception of Mary, not Jesus.
Quote:was in fact a non-consential impregnation of a woman
Incorrect. Consent was given:
Luke 1
38 Then Mary said, “Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word.”
Quote:I don't see much discussion of this issue on atheist or xtian forums
Maybe because you have the facts wrong.
Quote:I was actually quite proud of my daughters for coming up with this conclusion together with their friends.
You're proud that they didn't bother to check the accounts to see if their assumptions were correct?
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
November 18, 2017 at 7:29 am
(November 17, 2017 at 8:35 pm)SteveII Wrote: Welcome. You will fit in well here: you and your equally stupid children can't even get the definition of rape right. Critical thinking skills are on the decline. I blame vaccines.
Thank you for proving what many of us here argue. Your post is indeed the catalyst for the continual shit slinging that happens here. Instead of addressing the points made in the OP, you'd rather insult and troll. I'm sure your god must be so happy to have you represent what he stands for.
Well done, hypocrite.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
November 18, 2017 at 7:32 am
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This is all nonsense. Jesus was a haploid. At best a parthenogen (but then the incorrect sex).
Unless theists are willing to concede that god has DNA.
Or, it's all a fantasy.
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