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GOD RAPED MARY
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(November 20, 2017 at 10:47 am)alpha male Wrote:
(November 20, 2017 at 10:15 am)Shell B Wrote: Really? I don’t “dish out” anything in terms of starting threads about religion and drew a line at a user calling other people’s children stupid. Think harder.

You called a generally very level-headed poster a cunt for a one-off insult.

Yeah I don't agree with Steve's response (which he has since apologized for), but cant entirely blame him for reacting that way to the person who makes a thread literally titled "Christian Parents Abuse Their Children."
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
(November 20, 2017 at 10:47 am)alpha male Wrote:
(November 20, 2017 at 10:15 am)Shell B Wrote: Really? I don’t “dish out” anything in terms of starting threads about religion and drew a line at a user calling other people’s children stupid. Think harder.

You called a generally very level-headed poster a cunt for a one-off insult.

Aimed at children. He called children stupid. I called him a cunt. You also said we can dish it out but we can't take it. You've yet to show how I've dished out anything I can't take. Do you see me making threads insulting children?

(November 20, 2017 at 11:00 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(November 20, 2017 at 10:47 am)alpha male Wrote: You called a generally very level-headed poster a cunt for a one-off insult.

Yeah I don't agree with Steve's response (which he has since apologized for), but cant entirely blame him for reacting that way to the person who makes a thread literally titled "Christian Parents Abuse Their Children."

Firstly, I called him a cunt before he apologized. Secondly, the poster acting like an asshole (allegedly) doesn't make his kids fair game. I can blame him, and I did. His apology was cool, though not at all relevant to beta male's nonsense accusation that because I called the poster a cunt atheists can't take what they dish out. That's absurd. Beta himself dishes out far worse on a regular basis dating back five or more years.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
(November 20, 2017 at 12:58 pm)Shell B Wrote: Aimed at children. He called children stupid. I called him a cunt. You also said we can dish it out but we can't take it. You've yet to show how I've dished out anything I can't take. Do you see me making threads insulting children?

OP brought his children into it in order to denigrate Christianity. He dished it out. You can't take it.

Do you see stupid as similar to cunt in severity? Maybe you toss cunt around so much that it's watered down for you, but to a lot of people it's pretty severe.

(November 20, 2017 at 12:58 pm)Shell B Wrote: Beta himself dishes out far worse on a regular basis dating back five or more years.

Yes, and IIRC I didn't blink when you called me a cunt. We're talking about Steve though, and he doesn't generally dish it out like I do.

But hey, one slip and a person's a cunt. Got it.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
(November 20, 2017 at 12:58 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(November 20, 2017 at 10:47 am)alpha male Wrote: You called a generally very level-headed poster a cunt for a one-off insult.

Aimed at children. He called children stupid. I called him a cunt. You also said we can dish it out but we can't take it. You've yet to show how I've dished out anything I can't take. Do you see me making threads insulting children?

(November 20, 2017 at 11:00 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yeah I don't agree with Steve's response (which he has since apologized for), but cant entirely blame him for reacting that way to the person who makes a thread literally titled "Christian Parents Abuse Their Children."

Firstly, I called him a cunt before he apologized.

I know. I wasn't saying otherwise.

Quote:Secondly, the poster acting like an asshole (allegedly) doesn't make his kids fair game. I can blame him, and I did. His apology was cool, though not at all relevant to beta male's nonsense accusation that because I called the poster a cunt atheists can't take what they dish out. That's absurd. Beta himself dishes out far worse on a regular basis dating back five or more years.

Like I said, I agree Steve's comment wasn't right. But I wouldn't say he's a cunt for responding that way to accusations of child abuse. I would say he's human. People understandably don't take too well to being accused of abusing their own kids.

I think AM was saying it's a double standard to not say a peep when an atheist accuses all Christian parents of child abuse, but then use the word "cunt" at the christian who responded by calling the atheists daughters stupid. I think thats what he means by dish it but not take it, though he can correct me if I'm wrong.

Personally I think being a parent and being accused of abusing your own kids is worse than having someone retaliate by calling your teenage kids stupid.

But I agree both are wrong.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
(November 20, 2017 at 1:07 pm)alpha male Wrote: OP brought his children into it in order to denigrate Christianity. He dished it out. You can't take it.

He's denigrating a religion that a person can easily make a solid argument for despising. A religion, not a person. You think it's okay for someone to call children stupid because an organization was insulted? Organizations don't have feelings.

Quote:Do you see stupid as similar to cunt in severity? Maybe you toss cunt around so much that it's watered down for you, but to a lot of people it's pretty severe.

No. Cunt is worse. I called an adult a cunt. I didn't call any children names. (Steve, I realize you apologized. I'm just debating with betatard at this point.)

Quote:Yes, and IIRC I didn't blink when you called me a cunt.

Have I called you a cunt? Good.

Quote:We're talking about Steve though, and he doesn't generally dish it out like I do.

So what? He can dish it out and you can't take it.

Quote:Like I said, I agree Steve's comment wasn't right. But I wouldn't say he's a cunt for responding that way to accusations of child abuse.

I would call someone a cunt for calling children stupid. You can't keep bringing up another thread. He wasn't quoting an accusation of child abuse. He was quoting the OP.

Quote:I would say he's human. People understandably don't take too well to being accused of abusing their own kids.

Again, wrong thread. It's also against the rules to call someone a pedophile, I think. So, do something about it instead of calling kids stupid, maybe?

Quote:I think AM was saying it's a double standard to not say a peep when an atheist accuses all Christian parents of child abuse, but then use the word "cunt" at the person who responded by calling the accuser's daughters stupid.

Interesting. Do you think maybe I didn't say a peep because this isn't that thread?

Quote:Personally I think being a parent and being accused of abusing your own kids is worse than having someone retaliate by calling your teenage kids stupid.

CL, this is not that thread. No amount of bringing it up and saying this was retaliating to that is going to change it. Please do not pretend I ignore accusations of pedophilia simply because I didn't bring them up in a thread where it didn't happen. However, I will say that attacking children in any way (verbally) is worse than verbally attacking an adult in any way.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
(November 20, 2017 at 1:07 pm)alpha male Wrote: But hey, one slip and a person's a cunt. Got it.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
(November 20, 2017 at 1:21 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(November 20, 2017 at 1:07 pm)alpha male Wrote: But hey, one slip and a person's a cunt. Got it.

Yep. Everyone's got a bit of cunt in them. You got a larger share, but there's plenty to go around.

I just read the thread in question. The title refers to an assertion made by Richard Dawkins. In the thread, he talks about he feels the Catholic school system was mentally abusive. (I don't know why I thought you meant he called Catholic parents pedophiles. I misread one of your posts.) He explains his experience in the Catholic school system and why he took his daughter of it. Literally in the first sentence of his OP, he says it wasn't his assertion, but Richard Dawkins. He called the "educators" at his daughter's school abusive. I'm confused at how that at all equates to what is being said about the OP here.

Oh, dear. Catholic Lady, the abuse thread was created after this thread. The comment insulting the OP's children was made before the abuse thread was created. Sorry. Every argument you've made is moot.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
(November 20, 2017 at 1:16 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(November 20, 2017 at 1:07 pm)alpha male Wrote: OP brought his children into it in order to denigrate Christianity. He dished it out. You can't take it.

He's denigrating a religion that a person can easily make a solid argument for despising. A religion, not a person. You think it's okay for someone to call children stupid because an organization was insulted? Organizations don't have feelings.

Quote:Do you see stupid as similar to cunt in severity? Maybe you toss cunt around so much that it's watered down for you, but to a lot of people it's pretty severe.

No. Cunt is worse. I called an adult a cunt. I didn't call any children names. (Steve, I realize you apologized. I'm just debating with betatard at this point.)

Quote:Yes, and IIRC I didn't blink when you called me a cunt.

Have I called you a cunt? Good.

Quote:We're talking about Steve though, and he doesn't generally dish it out like I do.

So what? He can dish it out and you can't take it.

Quote:Like I said, I agree Steve's comment wasn't right. But I wouldn't say he's a cunt for responding that way to accusations of child abuse.

I would call someone a cunt for calling children stupid. You can't keep bringing up another thread. He wasn't quoting an accusation of child abuse. He was quoting the OP.

Quote:I would say he's human. People understandably don't take too well to being accused of abusing their own kids.

Again, wrong thread. It's also against the rules to call someone a pedophile, I think. So, do something about it instead of calling kids stupid, maybe?

Quote:I think AM was saying it's a double standard to not say a peep when an atheist accuses all Christian parents of child abuse, but then use the word "cunt" at the person who responded by calling the accuser's daughters stupid.

Interesting. Do you think maybe I didn't say a peep because this isn't that thread?

Quote:Personally I think being a parent and being accused of abusing your own kids is worse than having someone retaliate by calling your teenage kids stupid.

CL, this is not that thread. No amount of bringing it up and saying this was retaliating to that is going to change it. Please do not pretend I ignore accusations of pedophilia simply because I didn't bring them up in a thread where it didn't happen. However, I will say that attacking children in any way (verbally) is worse than verbally attacking an adult in any way.

I know BBZ didn't say in this thread that we abuse kids. But as you can imagine he left a very nasty taste in our mouths.

I did report that thread though, so we'll see.

(November 20, 2017 at 1:23 pm)Shell B Wrote: Oh, dear. Catholic Lady, the abuse thread was created after this thread. The comment insulting the OP's children was made before the abuse thread was created. Sorry. Every argument you've made is moot.

Ok, I see that now. My apologies. Hard to keep track of which obnoxious thread was made before the other when they're all by the same obnoxious poster.

I stand by that accusing a parent of abusing their own children is more heinous than telling a parent their kids are stupid. But yes, Steve's comment was uncalled for nonetheless.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
(November 17, 2017 at 8:54 pm)Losty Wrote: I suppose you could in some broad version of the second definition say that he “raped” or ruined her body by impregnating it. It would be a ridiculous use of the word, though. The story goes something like god magically gave her a miracle baby while her precious virginity remain intact.

In short, no, god did not rape Mary. Not in real life, nor in the story book.

I was going to victim blame and ask what was marry wearing, but this works better.. because technically she was still a virgin.

So. Silly OP, Rape is for corporeal beings.
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RE: GOD RAPED MARY
CL, I suggested reporting it when I thought it accused people of pedophilia. It didn't, so I doubt the report will go anywhere. It doesn't seem to break any rules, but I'm not sure. I haven't looked at the rules in years. Big Grin
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