Fuck you, Haipule.

(December 13, 2017 at 9:43 am)Cyberman Wrote: Fuck you, Haipule.

Yeah, Fuck me!

I gather that you are into movies. I as well. My favorite movie of all time is 1939 Wuthering Heights. And not just because of the timeless beauty of Merle Oberon. The dialog in that movie is spectacular!

I love the scene where Heathcliff' asks his wife, the sister of the husband of the woman he truly loves, who is Catherine, "Why are your eyes empty?" To which his wife responds, "Look at me!" "I'm young and I'm pretty!" "My eyes are not empty!" "They are full of love for you!" "You are my life, let me be but one breath of life to you!" To which Heathcliff responds angrily, grabbing the wall behind him, "WHY DID GOD GRANT ME LIFE!" "WHAT IS IT BUT HUNGER AND PAIN!!!"

The song was better!

(December 14, 2017 at 3:53 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: The song was better!

Kate Bush was awesome with all that handwaving and vocal gymnastics. I actually hated it when it first came out but heard it some 15 years later and appreciated just how good she was.

(December 12, 2017 at 6:50 pm)Haipule Wrote:

(December 12, 2017 at 5:48 pm)Cyberman Wrote: The part where you said "It's called the bible", after I asked how you know what your god thinks. It's tiring, keeping up both sides of a conversation. Feel free to join in anytime.

Sorry I wasn't clear. The bible IS the revealed thinking of God! Not that you care. And DO NOT Strawman my statement as if you know what the bible says or, Who thee God is! "Stupid is as stupid does"--Forrest Gump

How do you know the bible is the revealed word of god? 2 billion Muslims disagree. Not to mention all of the other religions.

How do you know what anyone else knows about the bible. Personally, I have read it cover to cover several times. It's pretty clear what it says to me. So why are there so many christian denominations? Why does the revealed "word of god" condone slavery? Human sacrifice? Rape? Genocide? 

As for "Who thee[sic] god is"? None of you theist can agree about that either, because nobody has ever seen a god.

There is no god but Allah Haipule,

swing with another cult for a while.

(December 14, 2017 at 2:39 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(December 12, 2017 at 6:50 pm)Haipule Wrote: Sorry I wasn't clear. The bible IS the revealed thinking of God! Not that you care. And DO NOT Strawman my statement as if you know what the bible says or, Who thee God is! "Stupid is as stupid does"--Forrest Gump

How do you know the bible is the revealed word of god? 2 billion Muslims disagree. Not to mention all of the other religions.

How do you know what anyone else knows about the bible. Personally, I have read it cover to cover several times. It's pretty clear what it says to me. So why are there so many christian denominations? Why does the revealed "word of god" condone slavery? Human sacrifice? Rape? Genocide? 

As for "Who thee[sic] god is"? None of you theist can agree about that either, because nobody has ever seen a god.

The English bible is manipulated to support theologies. There is not a single religion, "creed", "statement of faith", "what we believe", sect or cult that can be supported by the autographed languages. The autographed languages unite: theology divides and continues to divide.

The Greek NT has been hacked, rephrased, words removed, words added, words reinvented and given ecclesial meanings and spiritual meanings, verses combined with verses to give meaning that isn't there. In the Greek, there are no words that can be translated into an English sense of the words like, trinity, salvation, sin, spirit, repent, grace, heaven, hell, baptism, blasphemy, eternal, etc. I could go on all day! None of those English concepts are biblical.

They forgot that these words were written to the mostly illiterate in the first century. What happened since is inexcusable academic dishonesty! They don't understand Greek anarthrous, word order nor the simple usage of prepositions, adjectives or pronouns! It is pathetic!

(December 8, 2017 at 4:41 am)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: So how do you see yourself on a scale from 1 to 7 and what is your reasoning behind it?

I'm somewhere between 6 and 7. Practically speaking I'm a 7, but I do not believe an actual knowledge position can be taken up either way on questions that are not falsifiable to begin with. So 6 represents my philosophical position, 7 my practical position. I am an agnostic atheist in other words. As an atheist, I don't stake out a positive knowledge claim, only decline belief for lack of evidence.

(December 14, 2017 at 4:40 pm)Haipule Wrote: The English bible is manipulated to support theologies...

Too many to count but there must be 80+ English bible translations. So Which one?

(December 11, 2017 at 3:48 pm)Whateverist Wrote:

(December 10, 2017 at 4:50 pm)Omnibus E Plrus Nhilist Wrote: I believe in the word God but not any sort of existence of some sort of intelligence that created the Universe.

Well even the theists say "in the beginning was the word".  And since no actual gods have been found it would appear that in the end, "god" the word will be the end of it as well.

(December 10, 2017 at 4:50 pm)Omnibus E Plrus Nhilist Wrote: I guess I would consider myself an extremely strong atheist, or as I put it a rabid atheist. (but without rabies).

Well for a rabid atheist you don't seem pretty calm and measured.  What about during a full moon, ever feel the need to bite anyone religious then?

How can he be an atheist when he believes in the word of God. Seems like a huge contradiction to me.