(January 13, 2018 at 4:04 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(January 13, 2018 at 2:45 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Atheism is denial or confusion of a what the word "god" means or is nihilism.

It's good Quran took a snap shot of time of what words meant in a certain time.

Another god botherer who does not know what atheism actually is.

Oh I know exactly what Atheism is. I been on this site for years.  It's paradoxical claim and stance or it's nihilistic stance, one or the other.

(January 13, 2018 at 5:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(January 13, 2018 at 4:04 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Another god botherer who does not know what atheism actually is.

Oh I know exactly what Atheism is. I been on this site for years.  It's paradoxical claim and stance or it's nihilistic stance, one or the other.

Embarrassingly wrong.

The funniest is when Atheists say define God to justify their non-belief in him. It's so ironic.  The word is defined and proves Atheists can't admit what their god is.

(January 13, 2018 at 6:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The funniest is when Atheists say define God to justify their non-belief in him. It's so ironic.  The word is defined and proves Atheists can't admit what their god is.

Atheists have no god by definition. 

Seems rather odd that you have not figured that out by now.

(January 13, 2018 at 6:14 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(January 13, 2018 at 6:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The funniest is when Atheists say define God to justify their non-belief in him. It's so ironic.  The word is defined and proves Atheists can't admit what their god is.

Atheists have no god by definition. 

Seems rather odd that you have not figured that out by now.

I know what it means by definition.  And it is the number one reason they are confused and say stuff like "define God, we don't know what we are denying".

Their god is just illusionary and not real, that is the difference, not only that, but they even say it themselves that it has no essence or life, but it's just a program created by the mind and it just imaginary.

Yet with all the colours and hues of his light, they make use of the true God, and than attribute it all to chaotic origins and speak about how they can value various hues of the reality without their existing any reality nor knowing what reality is nor how anything is in it's essence.

Who we are is totally denied ironically to worship who we are and deny what we are linked to and what is greater than all of us and who life extends to all of us by which we depend on and are sustained, it's a shame.

(January 13, 2018 at 6:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(January 13, 2018 at 6:14 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Atheists have no god by definition. 

Seems rather odd that you have not figured that out by now.

I know what it means by definition.  And it is the number one reason they are confused and say stuff like "define God, we don't know what we are denying".

Their god is just illusionary and not real, that is the difference, not only that, but they even say it themselves that it has no essence or life, but it's just a program created by the mind and it just imaginary.

Yet with all the colours and hues of his light, they make use of the true God, and than attribute it all to chaotic origins and speak about how they can value various hues of the reality without their existing any reality nor knowing what reality is nor how anything is in it's essence.

Who we are is totally denied ironically to worship who we are and deny what we are linked to and what is greater than all of us and who life extends to all of us by which we depend on and are sustained, it's a shame.

Are you saying that believing in your god claim before you have defined it would be a more rational position?

(January 13, 2018 at 6:30 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:

(January 13, 2018 at 6:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I know what it means by definition.  And it is the number one reason they are confused and say stuff like "define God, we don't know what we are denying".

Their god is just illusionary and not real, that is the difference, not only that, but they even say it themselves that it has no essence or life, but it's just a program created by the mind and it just imaginary.

Yet with all the colours and hues of his light, they make use of the true God, and than attribute it all to chaotic origins and speak about how they can value various hues of the reality without their existing any reality nor knowing what reality is nor how anything is in it's essence.

Who we are is totally denied ironically to worship who we are and deny what we are linked to and what is greater than all of us and who life extends to all of us by which we depend on and are sustained, it's a shame.

Are you saying that believing in your god claim before you have defined it would be a more rational position?

No but you guys just show a big ignorance on how language works.

(January 13, 2018 at 6:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(January 13, 2018 at 6:14 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Atheists have no god by definition. 

Seems rather odd that you have not figured that out by now.

I know what it means by definition. 

Apparently, you don't. 'Atheism' is a privative.

(January 13, 2018 at 6:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: And it is the number one reason they are confused and say stuff like "define God, we don't know what we are denying".

Wrong. The reason that you are asked to define god is because without a definition, one cannot be certain which god is being discussed. I would have thought that was obvious.

(January 13, 2018 at 6:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Their god is just illusionary and not real, that is the difference, not only that, but they even say it themselves that it has no essence or life, but it's just a program created by the mind and it just imaginary.

No. Atheists have no god illusory or otherwise. You quite obviously have no clue what atheism is.

(January 13, 2018 at 6:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Yet with all the colours and hues of his light, they make use of the true God, and than attribute it all to chaotic origins and speak about how they can value various hues of the reality without their existing any reality nor knowing what reality is nor how anything is in it's essence.

What a load.

(January 13, 2018 at 6:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Who we are is totally denied ironically to worship who we are and deny what we are linked to and what is greater than all of us and who life extends to all of us by which we depend on and are sustained, it's a shame.

Incoherent. Do we get dressing with that word salad?

(January 13, 2018 at 6:31 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(January 13, 2018 at 6:30 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Are you saying that believing in your god claim before you have defined it would be a more rational position?

No but you guys just show a big ignorance on how language works.

What? I know how language works just fine, with any claim how can you start with a position of belief if the thing you're supposed to believe in hasn't been defined?

Alright it seems you already know what I meant even though I didn't elaborate and just want you to relfect. Let us just see which God will stand the test of time, the Atheistic imaginary one where the most thing to be valued is but an imagination originating from nothing, still in essence not having substance where sex and eating pizza states are even considered greater then vision of the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, but those states just pass away and disappear, or humanity will see your polytheistic intentions for what they are, a level of polytheism that not even the worse societies advocated in the past, and I am betting on the everlasting eternal God, sorry, but humans lack patience now because they don't know what they are linked to, but the proof of the true God is with us all, and I prefer him over everyone else.

Justice has to be by true love in a proper vision giving everything it's proper due, and valuing and measuring with regards to how things are, and not just chaotic claim where we love some and hate others ignorantly without true judgment from God.