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RE: Atheism in control would be bad
January 4, 2018 at 6:11 pm
(January 4, 2018 at 4:37 pm)TwoKnives99 Wrote: I don't think so, I mean many countries operate on atheistic values and moral philosophies, they are still thriving
What is an atheistic value?
For that matter, what is a xtian value since so many of the assholes are usually prattling on about it being the foundation of the US.
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RE: Atheism in control would be bad
January 4, 2018 at 6:31 pm
There was a time when religion ruled the world. We call it 'The Dark Ages'.
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RE: Atheism in control would be bad
January 4, 2018 at 7:52 pm
(January 4, 2018 at 6:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote: For that matter, what is a xtian value since so many of the assholes are usually prattling on about it being the foundation of the US.
Assigning values to beliefs -- or their absence -- is silly. There are good Christians and shitty atheists, good atheists and shitty Christians. Christian values didn't keep the Catholic hierarchy from protecting molesters in their midst, haven't kept 7DAs from killing children by refusing their health care, didn't stop "kill 'em all, God will know his own", and so on.
None of my values arise from atheism at all, so I'm unsure what the point is there.
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RE: Atheism in control would be bad
January 4, 2018 at 7:54 pm
Just a shot at the jesus freaks who seem to think that the US was founded on xtian values..... whatever the fuck those may be.
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RE: Atheism in control would be bad
January 4, 2018 at 10:36 pm
(January 4, 2018 at 1:43 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Secular societies tend to be the best in the world, though. You can't really base something off atheism itself, because all it means is not a theocracy. Secularism leads to freedom and equality, so it is in fact very good for the world
Secular does NOT mean godless.
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RE: Atheism in control would be bad
January 4, 2018 at 10:40 pm
(January 4, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (January 4, 2018 at 1:43 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Secular societies tend to be the best in the world, though. You can't really base something off atheism itself, because all it means is not a theocracy. Secularism leads to freedom and equality, so it is in fact very good for the world
Secular does NOT mean godless.
But it should.
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RE: Atheism in control would be bad
January 4, 2018 at 10:44 pm
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(January 4, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (January 4, 2018 at 1:43 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Secular societies tend to be the best in the world, though. You can't really base something off atheism itself, because all it means is not a theocracy. Secularism leads to freedom and equality, so it is in fact very good for the world
Secular does NOT mean godless.
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RE: Atheism in control would be bad
January 4, 2018 at 10:56 pm
(January 4, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (January 4, 2018 at 1:43 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Secular societies tend to be the best in the world, though. You can't really base something off atheism itself, because all it means is not a theocracy. Secularism leads to freedom and equality, so it is in fact very good for the world
Secular does NOT mean godless.
Sometimes I forget that.
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RE: Atheism in control would be bad
January 5, 2018 at 1:59 am
(January 4, 2018 at 7:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Just a shot at the jesus freaks who seem to think that the US was founded on xtian values..... whatever the fuck those may be.
Yep, the founding fathers were Deist at best, just look at the Jefferson bible. The conceit that the US is foundationally a christian nation is a god-botherer's wet dream and is entirely imaginary.
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RE: Atheism in control would be bad
January 5, 2018 at 6:45 am
(January 4, 2018 at 1:33 pm)Radieo31 Wrote: I am not really arguing for "Religious foundamentlism" i am not really anti religious but i am against fundamentalism just due to what happens if a society has a totalitarian regime.
However, what i am saying is let society be realistic. Wanna know why i think its bad? Because i saw Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.
I dont know about you but this is nightmare material to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World#Plot
Here is the link to the plot on wikipedia if not i have some youtube links to explain it more. It would be a hedonistic nightmare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raqVySPrDUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek5vse2_Aq0
You think Huxley is a prophet?
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