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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 4:11 pm
Aha! I knew it. I kept saying you were misrepresenting people's statements and you were all, "Nah, I'm just, you know, jamming about things people shouldn't say." I think you might have a problem with subtleties and nuance. There's a huge difference between, "It's reasonable to assume that she was interested in sex or something along those lines" and "She was asking for it." The former suggests a reasonable assumption you can make in an adult encounter that might lead you to try say grabbing a boob and seeing how that works out. The latter suggests that she's fair fucking game from that point on. You know it. It's part of communicating as a human. You just don't want to conceded to it because then you'd have to admit that maybe everyone who disagrees with you isn't cool with rape.
What kind of logical fallacy is it when you try to make your opponent look like a monster? Is it one? I'll make it one. Argumentum ad Frankensteinium.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 4:11 pm
(January 18, 2018 at 3:31 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (January 18, 2018 at 3:27 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Seriously? You seriously believe that when two people are mauling each other, grinding hips, and making out passionately, they should stop to ask permission before touching the other person between the legs? That’s the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard, lol. Yup because passionately making out and even grinding does not translate to . "touch my dick " You can do all that and not want someone to do that .
I don’t disrespect your position here. But, I have to say, it’s been a long time since I’ve had casual sex, but I don’t recall any man asking permission for that, and can’t think of a time I was bothered by that. I guess I’ve been out of the dating scene for too long, which is a good thing. Marriage is way easier. 😛
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 4:12 pm
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(January 18, 2018 at 4:11 pm)Shell B Wrote: What kind of logical fallacy is it when you try to make your opponent look like a monster?
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 4:12 pm
Marriage is easier, but that's not consent, either, Camus. Make sure you carry your mace with you around the house at all times.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 4:12 pm
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(January 18, 2018 at 4:11 pm)Shell B Wrote: Aha! I knew it. I kept saying you were misrepresenting people's statements and you were all, "Nah, I'm just, you know, jamming about things people shouldn't say." I think you might have a problem with subtleties and nuance. There's a huge difference between, "It's reasonable to assume that she was interested in sex or something along those lines" and "She was asking for it." The former suggests a reasonable assumption you can make in an adult encounter that might lead you to try say grabbing a boob and seeing how that works out. The latter suggests that she's fair fucking game from that point on. You know it. It's part of communicating as a human. You just don't want to conceded to it because then you'd have to admit that maybe everyone who disagrees with you isn't cool with rape.
What kind of logical fallacy is it when you try to make your opponent look like a monster? Is it one? I'll make it one. Argumentum ad Frankensteinium.
I'm sure that everyone who disagrees with me "isn't cool with rape"..Shell, lol. That doesn't mean they don't find themselves parroting socially common narratives that they think they're totally above, because nuance and such. It does, though, mean that they;re genuinely shocked and surprised when someone else picks it up.
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January 18, 2018 at 4:13 pm
(January 18, 2018 at 4:12 pm)Hammy Wrote: (January 18, 2018 at 4:11 pm)Shell B Wrote: What kind of logical fallacy is it when you try to make your opponent look like a monster?
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January 18, 2018 at 4:14 pm
(January 18, 2018 at 4:12 pm)Shell B Wrote: Marriage is easier, but that's not consent, either, Camus. Make sure you carry your mace with you around the house at all times.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 4:15 pm
(January 18, 2018 at 3:31 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (January 18, 2018 at 3:27 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Seriously? You seriously believe that when two people are mauling each other, grinding hips, and making out passionately, they should stop to ask permission before touching the other person between the legs? That’s the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard, lol. Yup because passionately making out and even grinding does not translate to . "touch my dick " You can do all that and not want someone to do that .
"Touch my dick"
"Okay now you touch my pussy."
"Okay now you touch my balls."
"Okay now you touch my tits."
Literally every step of the way.
Passionately making out? The way you describe sex... there is no passion at all. How can you even be spontaneous if you have to constantly interrupt the sex to ask questions? You can't.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 4:15 pm
(January 18, 2018 at 4:01 pm)Shell B Wrote: (January 18, 2018 at 3:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You might be politely expressing the vulgarian's things which cannot be said™.
Alright, alright, we get it. You want to talk about what the things we can't say are and why. Have at it. 
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Funny how CL posited nearly the same stance AND left religion out of it, but because it was CL saying it, she had her religion thrown back in her face simply because her view was similar to the view of the catholic church. This only further proves my point that if CL wasn't religious and said what she said, her comments would have been accepted as the norm.
How fickle others can be when it comes to where similar ideas originate from. 
CL's an undesirable.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 4:18 pm
(January 18, 2018 at 4:11 pm)Shell B Wrote: Aha! I knew it. I kept saying you were misrepresenting people's statements and you were all, "Nah, I'm just, you know, jamming about things people shouldn't say." I think you might have a problem with subtleties and nuance. There's a huge difference between, "It's reasonable to assume that she was interested in sex or something along those lines" and "She was asking for it." The former suggests a reasonable assumption you can make in an adult encounter that might lead you to try say grabbing a boob and seeing how that works out. The latter suggests that she's fair fucking game from that point on. You know it. It's part of communicating as a human. You just don't want to conceded to it because then you'd have to admit that maybe everyone who disagrees with you isn't cool with rape.
What kind of logical fallacy is it when you try to make your opponent look like a monster? Is it one? I'll make it one. Argumentum ad Frankensteinium.
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