(August 26, 2011 at 1:20 pm)Rhythm Wrote:

(August 26, 2011 at 1:19 pm)salty Wrote: I am in complete agreement! On faith, what you believe can be accepted as something you know.

Of course you are, because it lets you dismiss anything that disagrees with your faith as another faith (which you have already done). Unfortunately for your beliefs it isn't true.

Sae was trolling (AND SHE KNOWS THIS.......MAN)
See what you've done?

I was infact not trolling, I call this being fair

I never troll, silly boy. Okay, maybe one in 10 of my posts, but I think that's the extent of it.

Fine, one in 7, but no more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm7K4VM_7Rg

What it means is that no matter what you believe/know/trust: you can be wrong. Having it in your head that you are correct does not make it so... and the cosmos has fools in all of us. Or maybe not. That's just the thing, you see Certainty is easy... but to be certain is to take a risk. I'm certain the sky is not falling and cannot fall. If it ever falls: it will strike me completely unprepared

Like lightning in the arctic on a cloudless day.

(August 26, 2011 at 1:45 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: Seriously? KNOWING the sky is blue is different than BELIEVING theres an invisible man behind it. Maybe im missing something here. What is the definition of faith?

You believe something without good reason to, that's faith..

(August 26, 2011 at 1:36 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:

(August 26, 2011 at 1:35 pm)I_Blaspheme Wrote:

(August 26, 2011 at 1:14 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: bahahahahahahahahah! The sig is FANTASTIC!

Where are you all getting these sig images?

The wonderful, amazing, and delightful Cinjin. Mine is made from images of my tattoo.

Note to self: Must bribe Cinjin. Or blackmail him.

(August 26, 2011 at 1:45 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: Seriously? KNOWING the sky is blue is different than BELIEVING theres an invisible man behind it. Maybe im missing something here. What is the definition of faith?

'The'? Depends on who you ask. Tis my opinion that ~95% of arguments in philosophy and language is spent disagreeing with each other over nuance in definition when we all know full bloody well what the other side is describing.

And seriously. The sky? It's not blue. Don't know why you think it is either. Looks distinctly purple to me.

Then again, everything looks purple to me. Unless it isn't awesome. The sky, being awesome: purple. Shit? Blue. Because blue is the color of suck.

I give up. Before my head explodes.

Oh no, you started Sae on her faith rants again

(August 26, 2011 at 1:51 pm)I_Blaspheme Wrote: Note to self: Must bribe Cinjin. Or blackmail him.

I just smiled and asked. You'll have to ask him what the going rate is now though.

(August 25, 2011 at 5:28 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:

Quote:Knowledge: Faith.

Knowledge is knowledge.
Faith is faith. The two cannot be put together.
I have knowledge that the coffee cup in front of me is empty, this is based on sight, touch and the weight of it. All three of these senses tell the same thing. It's empty. Where does the faith bit come in?

Yes, good tool for keeping the fear. Though when the Spanish arrived and saw the barbaric practice, they slaughted them.

Transportation is a great example of faith. You have faith that you will have a safe trip when you drive, but you don't have the knowledge that you'll get there alive, even though you can see, touch and secure yourself in your vehicle.

Anyone can have knowledge of an empty cup because this world tells us what liquids and solids look and feel like. But could you have faith that the cup was empty if you 30 paces away from it? Or would you have to have faith from the knowledge that Sae gives you, when she tells you it's empty?

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(August 26, 2011 at 1:10 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Don't be thick.

What? Thick? I'm being serious. I'm not a die-hard tree hugger, I don't recycle much, I love geese even though they hiss and I enjoy the smell of freshly cut grass.

If you're wondering if I believe in the story of creation. I do.

No it is not! While you keep faith that your god will protect you from harm, I prefer to do defensive driving. It won't avoid a possible crash, but it sure will help me better the odds than 'faith'.

(August 26, 2011 at 1:12 pm)Rhythm Wrote: She was asking you if you believe that Genesis is a scientifically accurate account of creation, and that following the bibles chronology it went down roughly 6k years ago. (an "old earth creationist" being a person who subscribes to the former but not the latter)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_creationism
Specifically;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism
as opposed to;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Earth_creationism
(There of course being many flavors in between.)

I do. I see now "earth creationist" I guess I got confused by "young earth creationist" like I was some kind of hippie or following something new and radical about creation. Wasn't trying to be stupid, I just read stuff about cults in my spare time. Thanks for the links Rhythm.