(January 23, 2018 at 11:16 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:

(January 23, 2018 at 11:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: So, rather than puttin’ up, you’re appealing to motive and shuttin’ up?  Got it.

Just not asking “how high” everytime you want to say jump and switch topics....  I’m not upset or ignoring you... but not interested in going out of context either.   Also, I wasn’t reallly trying to imply anything about your motives.

Your accusing me of using tactics against you is most certainly an insinuation of ulterior motives, but okay.

(January 23, 2018 at 11:23 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(January 23, 2018 at 11:16 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Just not asking “how high” everytime you want to say jump and switch topics....  I’m not upset or ignoring you... but not interested in going out of context either.   Also, I wasn’t reallly trying to imply anything about your motives.

Your accusing me of using tactics against you is most certainly an insinuation of ulterior motives, but okay.

No... stating what you have done in the past... remember the whole testimony threads thing... whatever your motives... I’m not interested.

(January 23, 2018 at 11:28 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:

(January 23, 2018 at 11:23 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Your accusing me of using tactics against you is most certainly an insinuation of ulterior motives, but okay.

No... stating what you have done in the past... remember the whole testimony threads thing...  whatever your motives... I’m not interested.

You mean where I demonstrated that you show preferential credulity for bible claims over other supernatural claims?  Don’t blame me for your faulty logic, Road.  It’s not personal.

(January 23, 2018 at 11:36 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(January 23, 2018 at 11:28 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: No... stating what you have done in the past... remember the whole testimony threads thing...  whatever your motives... I’m not interested.

You mean where I demonstrated that you show preferential credulity for bible claims over other supernatural claims?  Don’t blame me for your faulty logic, Road.  It’s not personal.

Nope....and it is this type of manipulation and crap that makes me not interested.... good night.

(January 23, 2018 at 1:50 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(January 23, 2018 at 9:41 am)Godscreated Wrote: The crime is against the eternal God and when the crime goes unforgiven, ie through Christ as savior, then the crime is never ending, thus an infinite crime needing an infinite punishment. Please explain why I would want revenge on someone who I do not know, nor did the person ever do anything to me. You need to remember that justice has always been about balancing the scales.

GC

Do you not realise that makes your god even more of a monster? Could show mercy, doesn't wanna. Like a petulant child.

And what does it say about you that you like this abhorrent notion? You will likely come up with some nonsense justification like the ever trite"Hate the sin but not the sinner." which is another christian lie, or possibly that you are filled with regret and sadness that I and others like me will suffer eternal punishment which simply makes your god morally inferior to you.

 You're living in God's creation and you will live by His rules, commands and laws whether you like it or not. I came here to share how you can avoid the eternal punishment and if you do not want to listen it's only your fault and your responsibility and your self made punishment.

Gc

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(January 23, 2018 at 11:25 am)purplepurpose Wrote:

(January 23, 2018 at 10:40 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Infinite punishment, and of course, once it starts, no chance for redemption at that point.

Be anally birthing horned demons for Satan for all eternity, and then some.


Better put that shrimp down.

You think it's possible that God would torture being non stop endlessly?

God will not torture anyone and you will never find it in the Bible. God will place people in hell for unforgiven sin, what hell is like for each individual is in how they lived this life, worse for some, bad for all, hell will be of the individuals making and yes it will be endless.

GC

(January 20, 2018 at 12:08 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: You're missing the point, God, as Omniscient and All Powerful as He is, can be INFINITELY disappointed in specific members of His creation and they therefore merit ETERNAL and INFINITE punishment when they fail Him.

That's what the churches teach, or allow to be festered. It proves that they are worshiping Satan.

There is no point arguing with the churchians, because they have systematically justified that error through picking Bible verses out of context.
There are only a few denominations which know that the doctrine of eternal hell is false. At one point in the reformation most of the Protestant churches were aware of what their founders taught on the subject - and it wasn't eternal torture, and ghosts in heaven. These are pagan doctrines which the Catholic church imbibed, and it seems like the supposed reformation never saw itself clear of those errors.

(January 27, 2018 at 12:06 am)Godscreated Wrote:

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(January 23, 2018 at 11:25 am)purplepurpose Wrote: You think it's possible that God would torture being non stop endlessly?

God will not torture anyone and you will never find it in the Bible. God will place people in hell for unforgiven sin, what hell is like for each individual is in how they lived this life, worse for some, bad for all, hell will be of the individuals making and yes it will be endless.

GC

Godscreated, JW's edited Bible. I bet endless torture was added by some sick headed people.

(January 27, 2018 at 2:22 am)purplepurpose Wrote: ... I bet endless torture was added by some sick headed people.

Endless torture is a pagan teaching, so prevalent that when Jesus talked about justice, he had to use their own ideas to convey a lesson.
In one parable, he used an illustration from their own books, and this is held up as proof by the fallen churches that hell is an eternal burning.
But they forget that in the same story, the beggar sits on Abraham's lap in heaven, while the greedy rich man talks to God from hell.
First you have saved people sitting on Abraham's lap - which would crush him, and secondly hell has a two way radio to heaven.

People believe what they want to believe, and then amass the 'evidence' for it.

(January 27, 2018 at 8:47 pm)Banned Wrote:

(January 27, 2018 at 2:22 am)purplepurpose Wrote: ... I bet endless torture was added by some sick headed people.

Endless torture is a pagan teaching,

Lie

(January 27, 2018 at 8:47 pm)Banned Wrote: so prevalent that when Jesus talked about justice, he had to use their own ideas to convey a lesson.

Lie

(January 27, 2018 at 8:47 pm)Banned Wrote: In one parable, he used an illustration from their own books, and this is held up as proof by the fallen churches that hell is an eternal burning.

Lie.

(January 27, 2018 at 8:47 pm)Banned Wrote: But they forget that in the same story, the beggar sits on Abraham's lap in heaven, while the greedy rich man talks to God from hell.

Lie.

(January 27, 2018 at 8:47 pm)Banned Wrote: First you have saved people sitting on Abraham's lap - which would crush him, and secondly hell has a two way radio to heaven.

Lie.

(January 27, 2018 at 8:47 pm)Banned Wrote: People believe what they want to believe, and then amass the 'evidence' for it.

True, but that makes them simply wrong. And it is exactly what you do.

Re the OP: I'm not real fond of momentary agony either so definitely no unrelenting agony for me, thank you.